Coyote ugly. It’s a phrase men use to describe the experience of waking up, hungover as shit, in bed next to a girl so ugly you’d rather chew your arm off than have her stir. Yep, another night of too many shooters and very poor judgement. Well played, tequila. I’m willing to bet that every single varsity athlete or high status (medicine, engineering, computer science) male on any given college campus has had the experience. Why? Because they get hunted. All the time. By women. You see these guys staggering bleary-eyed into the dorm rooms the next morning, bro-punching their friends and saying “Dude, how could you let me do that?”
The walk of shame. A right of passage. One that men seem to relish, enjoy and get over pretty damn quickly. Yeah, you fucked an ugly chick. Or a fat chick. Whatever. You drank too much, lost all your reason and tumbled into bed with someone you wouldn’t normally touch with a ten yard pole. Ho hum. Where we going tonight, bros?
Women, on the other hand, are completely fucked in the head in this exact same situation. They get dressed up in their best whore clothes, head out to a frat party, drink their faces off, end up in bed with some guy they wouldn’t normally touch with a ten yard pole, wake up the next morning feeling like a total slutbag and then it happens. Someone must be to blame for this. I can’t possibly have gotten shitfaced and exercised some really poor judgement. Moi? Ce n’est pas possible! I am an innocent blushing virgin with impeccable moral standards. Why, only whores get smashed and fuck random guys in a frat house, and I am not a whore so JESUS MOTHER OF GOD I WAS RAPED!
Bitch, please. You weren’t raped. You were trashed. Why is it that men are held responsible for their actions no matter what their state of inebriation, but women get a pass. It doesn’t matter if you were drunk, stripped naked, straddled the guy in your best cowgirl and fucked like a banshee. You were drunk. You can’t consent. You were raped.
Dude might have been just as pissed up as you, but he can’t cry rape because rationality. Only men are rational creatures? Really? Bull. Shit.
There are women so delusional they actually think we live in a “rape culture”. What the fuck?
http://jezebel.com/rape-culture/
No, we don’t live in a rape culture. We live in a Don’t You Bitches Have Any Friends culture. Me and the Princess have our fair share of experience dancing like madwomen in our lingerie in night clubs filled with horny men starting looking like the cast of Ocean’s Twelve after that last appletini. Many nights ended with crazy slobbery make-out sessions with the DUDE WHO LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE BRAD PITT.
Here’s the thing. We protected each other. Not from Brad Pitt. From our own BAD JUDGEMENT. Rape culture holds men, and only men, responsible for what women do. And thanks, but I prefer to be responsible for my own fucking behaviour. And when I’m about to do something really stupid, that I will regret the next morning, I rely on my friends to save me FROM MYSELF.
So go ahead. Wear those fishnets and hoochie shorts. You look fucking hot! Play beer pong! Strip for that guy. Go ahead and fuck him. Make all those decisions BUT UNDERSTAND THEY ARE YOUR DECISIONS. You don’t get to wake up the next day feeling like a whore and ruin a man’s life because YOU ARE A SLUT. Women–and men–who really were violently brutalized by strangers totally against their will aren’t helped by your idea of a rape culture. In fact the rape culture YOU created makes it worse for them by equating a truly violent and awful crime with bad decisions made while drunk.
So embrace your slut. Or trust your friends when they tell you it’s time to say nighty-night to Brad. Or you know, shut the fuck up. . Take your pick.
Lots of love,
JB
Hu Huhh?
Ho lee uk fay.
Bitch, like where you been all our mra lives?
Oh. You married.
Bitch.
Guess I don’t get that sammich.
Anyway, seriously.
Refreshing though not your regular read.
Guess I’ll have to come back for more.
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First, I apologize for my bad English, it’s not my first language.
The fact that men can not say the were raped because of criticism doesn’t mean it’s right to do the same for everyone.
Being called a whore or a player should not be the standard.
But apparently, most MRAs are so busy fighting “feminists” to actually do something about the patriarchal stereotypes the are being held prisoners of.
This is the equality you people are looking for? “If men can not be raped, women can’t either; equality”.
You people got it all wrong.
But I guess we should have fought for men’s right to vote, or wear pants, or work outside of their homes… wait. That wasn’t a problem for them then. You can blame feminism as a movement for the lack of inclusion of POC in the beginning, or the lack of interesctionality, but not for not fighting for men’s rights they already had.
Male disposabilty has existed since the beginning of the patriarchal system, but no one seemed to care until women started working and exercising their basic human rights.
Just because a few “feminists” dismiss the oppression men face on a daily basis, it doesn’t mean that as a movement, it does the same. Now, I can’t consider myself a feminist, it’s a really big name for me. But generalizing about the movement it would be the same as saying that every man is a pathetic excuse of a human being.
No sane person believes this.
And by the way, feminists don’t hate men. They hate human beings who play and perpetuate perfectly the horrible stereotype that both men and women created and accepted through out the years for that gender.
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You might like to try and talk some sense into this feminist nut job! http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/rejecting-the-concern-troll-20121030-28hga.html
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Thanks, Greg. I clicked through but comments have now been closed.
Feel free to post a link to this blog whenever you come across that kind of drivel. A fresh perspective might be welcomed.
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… and what about the women who are, y’know, ACTUALLY RAPED (to pen your overuse of capitals)? This is ill-advised and further shames women into not reporting when they have been physically abused; a feminist issue that does actually need fighting. I think it’s an extremely immature argument to presume that girls who report rape are just whores who can’t admit when they regret a one night stand. Of course there are women like that – and, fine, write about them – but they are the minority and there are too many who are abused and too afraid to convict their attacker(s). Those are the girls we should be fighting for, not knocking them into a sex-shamed corner of the room and telling them to shut up and get on with it. By not even acknowledging them in your piece, this is exactly what you’re doing.
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Yeah, here’s the thing, Miss Beatty. While I absolutely believe one in four women BELIEVE they have been raped, they haven’t been. They are some combination of spineless chicken shits with no self-esteem (which is NOT a sex partner’s fault or responsibility) and guilt ridden sluts looking for someone to blame.
Take that Amherst “rape” scandal. The “victim” claims she could hear the voices of her friends on the other side of the door while she was held down and “raped”.
Bitch please. You had classic missionary sex with your friends right outside the door an didn’t make a fucking peep? From his perspective, she was probably a really boring fuck.
Here’s a clue: if you don’t want to have sex, SAY SO. If he doesn’t listen, SCREAM FOR HELP! Her friends were right there!!
The fact that the Amherst girl is a gutless coward and that her partner couldn’t MAGICALLY READ HER MIND doesn’t make it rape.
The fact that anyone could characterize that situation as rape is a slap in the face to women who really ARE raped. Dragged in a ditch and fucked kind of rape. Real rape. Those women are victims and I’ll stand behind them and not some whiny little rich bitch who thinks she’s too precious to be a whore.
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HAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAA!
Oh….. wait, you were serious with this bullshit,weren’t you?
Goddamn. Guess they’re still using lead in the paint where you live… as well as LSD.
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………….
I think I may have just had an orgasm.
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” I’m willing to bet that every single varsity athlete or high status (medicine, engineering, computer science) male on any given college campus has had the experience. Why? Because they get hunted. All the time. By women. ”
Are you writing from some place in Asia? In this country (USA) engineering and computer science nerds do not get hunted by women at all, what to speak of all the time. Medicine men? They do somewhat better.
” Me and the Princess have our fair share of experience dancing like madwomen in our lingerie in night clubs filled with horny men starting looking like the cast of Ocean’s Twelve after that last appletini. Many nights ended with crazy slobbery make-out sessions with the DUDE WHO LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE BRAD PITT.”
OK that ^ shows you’re not an Asian woman ;), but still, what country are you writing from that has women hunting down engineering and comp sci nerds? American geeks and non-competitive sexual marxists everywhere are ready to book flights!
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universe, “Bitch, like where you been all our mra lives?”
She answered that right here in this very blog;
“Me and the Princess have our fair share of experience dancing like madwomen in our lingerie in night clubs filled with horny men starting looking like the cast of Ocean’s Twelve after that last appletini. Many nights ended with crazy slobbery make-out sessions with the DUDE WHO LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE BRAD PITT.”
She’s what we MRAs in the Manosphere call a “reformed slut”.
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Reformed? I’m not reformed in the slightest. I just slut it up with the same guy all the time. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve never been much of a slut.
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ik it’s been a while since this was written, but that’s exactly the kind of thinking that feminists carry. the “patriarchal system” was there cause it helped keep civilization going and women safe. and otherwise never existed till feminists made it up to get support. they do hate men too, just not men that act like women (though they probably hate them as well, it’s a running theme). history lesson, in quite a few countries (i’m only aware of the US and england at the moment) it wasn’t until WW1 when a lot of men got the right to vote as well, by helping the movement to get universal suffrage. up until then, it wealthy whities and quite a few of the women in the movement were at that level campaigning for only wealthy women (mostly white as well). the shit about not being able to come out about being raped affects both genders but compared to men, women have it easy as it’s not unexpected (doesn’t make it better, just not as surprising). with men, if they were believed at all (which doesn’t happen really), it made headlines and became earth-shattering news to dozens of towns. the lack of this, means they aren’t believed (this is taking into account said man getting past being called a pussy and whatnot that is required to get that level of care). also, those “horrible stereotypes” you mentioned are also used a lot against men. don’t be fooled, the feminist agenda is all fun and games, no responsibility or effort anywhere near there which is why they make men do it all, thus the “male disposability” that is part of their dictatorship-style regime they want to put into effect which also includes killing any animal with fur that makes them look good, make-up that is made of seals, cocoa trees, and rare bloom-only-once-every-thousand-years flowers, and dozens of items produced in horrid ways or enviro-murdering techniques. make no mistake about what can happen when female consumerism is allowed to run wild and free and no one is allowed to show them the consequences, judgybitch, princesspixiepointless, and women them aside it seems. btw, does princesspixiepointless have any spaces?
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This this this! This article only makes me remember being raped. It makes me loathe those few minutes where all I could do was scream, and I felt like dying. This stupid… well, whatever she is… has obviously never been physically assaulted. Please (blogger), do not post anything like this again without some sort of warning- for men and women alike.
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You just totally gave me wood 😉
Excellent summation. If you drink yourself into oblivion, you cannot retcon your story to fit whatever scenario you need to placate your guilt ridden conscious.
A drunk driver who has no memory of getting into his car and plowing into the bus stop full of people cannot the day after wake up in the drunk tank and wave his hand and say ‘but i can’t remember if i consented to getting into the car?’.. TOO LATE!
Drinking to blackout means you accept whatever consequences follow because you weren’t rational enough to think to stop yourself from pounding back the shots. Whatever your intentions, it’s your following actions that count. And if you can’t recall that you went to the bar to drink to lower your inhibitions so that you could hit on sexy guys while wearing that hot little dress to get noticed because you’re out on the prowl… and you end up unconscious through your own actions, it’s on you.
A man drinks to blackout in a park in the middle of the night in a snowstorm. They find his body the next morning. Who’s at fault… the man, or mother nature?
“Reformed? I’m not reformed in the slightest. I just slut it up with the same guy all the time. Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve never been much of a slut.”
I love you girl. You truly have the right attitude. There’s nothing wrong with being a righteous whore in the bedroom, with a great guy who loves you and respects you and doesn’t treat you like a walking fleshlight. I’ve always said ‘its not the amount of sex you had that makes you a bad slut, it’s the partner count.’ you don’t need to sample 50 dicks in order to be a good lover.
related:
http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/a-final-word-on-sluts-for-now/
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Holy shit you should have a warning label on your blog. That woman sitting on the floor nearly made me toss my brekkie!
Yech!
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Heheh.
Real life is harsh sometimes luv. Very harsh…
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Reblogged this on elevatorgate and commented:
A thought-provoking article on rape culture.
See if it provokes your thoughts, too
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Banging an even marginally intoxicated woman is asking to be put on the sex offenders list. It’s just not worth it. It’s getting like you have to video tape every sex act to prove you had consent.
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How about you just fuck off!
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You should shut your face since it’s women and manginas like YOU that fool the rest of us into thinking that it’s okay to have no responisibility for our actions. Guess what? This kind of ‘rape’ is very common since it’s falling into line with the women are all angels and men are all sleazebags ‘logic’ that feminism has been putting out there for a long time now.
As for your snide whining of ‘well…write about THOSE women that are a small minority’…guess what? THEY DID and those women ARE NOT a small minority. You’re the one coming here pissing and moaning about something that has no connection with the material at hand. The author is absolutely correct to attack this kind of behavior in women since it’s retarded to scream rape when everyone knows that alcohol turns lots of women into raging sluts. This is the very reason that I don’t drink anymore or when I do it’s very sparingly…aka RESPONSIBLY. People like YOU are the damn problem since you want to treat all women like children. Guess what? When you over-indulge shit happens. Women should have the decency to acknowledge that that was their bad. Shit in general was a lot better before womens lib. since the so called sexual revolution has encouraged a more casual attitude towards sex. Very few men anymore have enough respect for women in general to be gentlemen when someone is waving pussy in their face.
Get over yourself. And here’s some friendly advice. Move your computer out of the kitchen if the magic picture is going to upset you so damn much.
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The whole concept of rape culture is stupid. If rape culture existed rape would not be illegal and hated by any sane person with an ounce of humanity.
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I take “rape culture” to mean that any woman, any where, can define any sexual experience as rape, provided she feels it is. That’s rape culture.
And also bullshit, obviously.
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Hey Judgy Bitch, just found you linked from Woman and the Dragon. Love this post. I’m an introspective bro, and my virginity losing story was exactly what you describe here…I was so blacked out there was no chance of me consenting (not even sure how I got hard, but the young bro body can do amazing things). She was older, I was in high school on a college visit, she said I looked too drunk to function so she should probably ‘take me home’ and put me to bed…Oh she put me to bed alright…and then some. I have almost no memory of losing my virginity. Just a flash of a female body on top of me. I woke up, the following questions occurred to me in approximately 10 second increments (I am not exaggerating):
“Who am I?”
“I am Keanu, bro king.”
“Where am I?”
“I am at University of Partying, on a college visit. HOLY SHIT I AM IN SOMEONE’S dorm room.”
“Why the fuck am I naked?”
?TBD?
“Why is there a naked girl next to me???”
“Keanu, she was on top of you last night.”
By the feminist definition, I was raped. Would I ever consider, like, pressing charges?
Fuck no. I wouldn’t consider doing anything because slapping my own dumb young face. Yes, I regretted it, but it was a clear case of ‘people do dumb shit when they are fucked up.’ This first encounter definitely set a pretty bad precedent for how I would hook up for most of college, though…I often wish I could have had my first sexual experience (well, penis-vagina experience) be in a positive, sober, hell maybe even loving? environment. Live and learn. But I was so fucked up that night, she could have even been like ‘wtf i didn’t consent’ and I would have had no idea.
Thanks mom and dad for my tall broad stature, facial symmetry and athletic build!
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Also, I think you might find this post I did about my not-as-bro college roommate an interesting read:
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I did like that post and I recommend everyone click through. It’s a great read. Thanks for sharing it, Keanu.
God, what a great name.
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Uuh, the title wasn’t a dead giveaway?
derp.
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NAFALT!!!
Wrong. All Feminists ARE Like That.
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Take a fucking pill & put on a burka. So you were raped, woooopeee fucking shit. Your vagina is just as smelly as it was before. Welcome to planet earth. Keep your trophies & victimhood to yourself because WE DON’T CARE.
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Burkas & pills don’t mix dude.
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I don’t think you’ve summed up all the situations…For example if she had been ruffied -she just took some juice and ended up in vegetable state and everybody laughs at her ha ha look at that drunk bitch.Don’t tell girls the only way they can end up like this is by getting drunk because it’s false and dangerous.You are talking about mild drunk girls who are just acting more slutty and has less inhibitions so she ends up sleeping with a guy she wouldn’t normally would.In less fortunate cases the girl is unconscious(either from alcohol or drugs) or in a state where she can’t move and some guy takes advantages of either her inability to run or to fight but she is well aware that she doesn’t want this.
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Whatever the situation, understand what you DO and DO NOT want and then get your brain to leap that itty little bit forward and grasp that you have some obligation to behave in ways that ensure you don’t end up in a situation that you won’t like.
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It’s great that you can protect yourself against rape with your super-friends, but telling people to “shut the fuck” is insane. It’s baffling to me that you’re encouraging blame and disbelief of rape victims, and then sneaking in some half-assed be-safe advice as if that makes it alright, mean-in-a-cute-way persona or not. I’m too frustrated and sleepy to think clearly enough yell at this article with more specificity, but I’ll get to it tomorrow.
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Kevin, lets rename you Cuckold or, alternatively “captain save a ho” since you’ll be the virginal white knight who swoops in and never gets laid. Facepalm. Please STFU, you intellectually and logically challenged fool.
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I like how you’re comment depicts a completely separate and very distinguishable chain of events. No one was talking about date rape. Part two is how do you think men keep safe from their dramatically higher risk of victimization of any other violent crime? Our fabulous friends, not because we are to blame when people mug us (that’s would be a morons point to make) but because the world isn’t perfect so cooperation and intelligence can supplement the lack of twenty for hour personal body guards.
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shut the fuck up
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No.
Fuck off.
That is all.
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Um, all she is saying is that there is a problem when two people get drunk, have sex, regret it, and one of them is automatically a rapist. Women should be held accountable for their actions as much as men. They are not weak.
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Ordinarily I agree with you. But, I have to take up the honor of prostitutes on this one (I’m a navy vet from that time period when we worked hard and played hard, as opposed to today’s work hard and work hard navy). With a whore it is just a business transaction. A whore at work would never cry rape as long as the she recieved the promised compensation for services rendered. No, the term is slut. That’s what a feminsts is acting like when she gets drunk and has sex with someone she would not ordinarily touch with a ten-foot pole. When she cries raoe after sobering up then she is a lying, slutty bitch-of-a-scum-bag. Thank you JB … I feel better now. 🙂
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Totally agree with this. Why wear slutty clothes and get drunk at a club, knowing that you have no friends to rely with in the first place?
Just wear slutty clothes and get drunk at your home, alone, if you don’t want to end up in someone’s bed the next day.
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Seriously? Please:
http://www.change.org/petitions/national-federation-of-high-school-associations-educate-high-school-coaches-about-sexual-assault?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20316&alert_id=mdfTFEByZr_mPHhdSiaTI
A shame that people feel the need for this. I have two football player sons… and I will let them know to stay away from drunk sluts, it could ruin their lives.
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Hey JB – I’ve just seen this REALLY interesting graphic: http://theenlivenproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/rapist_visualization_03.jpg
Oh noes! LOOK! it shows that out of every 2500 rapes, only 10 men are convincted, and only 2 are false accusations! See – PROOF that the justice system is terribly, terribly flawed and false rape accusations are practically irrelevant. Unless, you know, you actually believe that pesky innocent till proven guity thing. Then you have to discard all the ones that are unproven either way… and you’e left with 12 cases. Of which 2 are false accusations. So we can extrapolate that 1/6 claims of rape are false.
I don’t think that was what they were TRYING to say, somehow.
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This is excellent.
Thank you.
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Wow. It’s amazing that the pissy folks whining about JB are missing the point. I thought it was quite clear.
I’ll restate it in the simplest possible terms: If a woman decides to get drunk, decides to engage in sex whilst drunk and then regrets it in the morning IT”S NOT RAPE. It is called “the outcome of decisions that she made as an adult.”
Claiming that a MAN somehow is responsible for decisions MADE BY A WOMAN (she decided to get drunk, she decided to have sex while drunk) strips women of their agency and reduces them to the status of children who lack maturity to make their own decisions.
Not only that, but it doesn’t make any sense. Why would it be that a woman deciding to get drunk and have sex IS NOT responsible for her actions, but a woman deciding to get drunk and drive a car IS responsible for her actions?
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I, too, blame others for what I choose to read.
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“A fresh perspective might be welcomed…”
as long as it doesn’t oppose our own because the people who disagree with our perspective are wrong.
Brilliant. A plus.
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Lets start off with the basics again (from the blog) consenting until the morning after is slutty and/or whorism without regard to gender. Crying rape well after (especially the morning after) the fact is lessening those who really have been really raped. Saying no at any point means it was ok before the first no and is not ok any point after. Saying you were raped before you said no is wrong, no matter what feminists say because eyewitnesses are horribly unreliable and that is because of self delusions and people trying to wiggle our of consequences (without regard to type: mental, social or physical).
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“Why is it that men are held responsible for their actions no matter what their state of inebriation, but women get a pass?”
This is something I ask myself often. A drunk driver, regardless what story they tell,they are held responsible. When two people get drunk beyond any legal limit, they say the guy raped her. What????????? On what planet of logic does that make sense? A great speaker on Youtube shares her point of view on the ills of feminism. She said, “If both the male and female are drunk and had sex, who committed the act of rape?” My jaw fell when one of the rude feminist hecklers in the crowd said, “the guy is.”
The speaker was stunned. She then said, “That does not make any sense. They are both drunk. How can you blame one and not the other?”
Nonetheless, this post was spot on. Guys are held completely responsible for their actions. They call it accountability. When you want a woman held responsible for hers, they say you are slut-shaming. Wonderful hypocrisy. But such is life.
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“This is ill-advised and further shames women into not reporting when they have been physically abused; a feminist issue that does actually need fighting.”
What utter nonsense.
College feminists actively discourage women from reporting rape to real police (in part because real police–as opposed to campus sex tribunals–will laugh at the hopelessly watered down definitions of “rape” that rape crisis feminists are attempting to palm off on us these days),
Feminists generally intentionally make an ordinary, typical police investigations of rape sound offensive and unnecessarily intrusive, frightening women into not reporting.
Get a clue, please.
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“This is ill-advised and further shames women into not reporting when they have been physically abused; a feminist issue that does actually need fighting.”
I want to add, by all means point us to even one Jezebel feminist who talks about the importance of women reporting rape to the police.
That’s not what they do, though, is it? It’s not their interest to actually take rapists off the streets.
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“Excellent summation. If you drink yourself into oblivion, you cannot retcon your story to fit whatever scenario you need to placate your guilt ridden conscious.”
Precisely. Given how entirely conscious blackout drunks appear, and how, short of you lying there immobile, no one else is obliged to know your blood alcohol content, you don’t get to wake up the next morning, see that you’ve had sex, and claim because you can’t remember consenting the night before that you didn’t consent and were therefore raped.
Yet this is precisely how feminists currently define rape. I suspect it’s part of the reason they’re now claiming if a woman drinks and has sex, she was raped. That’s the only way to convert “I can’t remember” into “I was raped.”
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“I was so blacked out there was no chance of me consenting”
This is a common–and to me, a puzzling–source of rape claims. The definition of a blackout isn’t that you aren’t doing things, it’s that later on you can’t remember what you did.
For all you know, you gave every appearance of being fully conscious and eagerly consenting. So, no, you were not raped. Not that you know of.
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What they claim is that the analogy doesn’t hold. They claim instead something like, “When a woman is drunk, she can’t consent, so any sex is rape.” AND “If she can’t remember what happened, she couldn’t have consented, so any sex was rape.” The second example has a corollary. We’ll point out that blackout drunks often appear to be behaving reasonably or rationally. They’ll reply, if the woman was blackout drunk, she was drunk, therefore she could not consent to sex, therefore any sex was rape.
If you then ask, why is the man obliged to know her blood alcohol content the reply will be something like, if he’s not sure he shouldn’t be having sex with her. If you ask, what if the man’s drunk, too? the reply will be something like, it’s still rape.
It’s all nonsense, of course. Clearest to me is that if a woman does not know what happened because she was in a blackout, she cannot know that she didn’t appear to fully and freely consent, therefore she cannot say she was raped.
Nor does the argument, “I wouldn’t have slept with THAT guy if I was sober, therefore I couldn’t have consented to sex with him” make any sense. People regularly do things differently while drunk than they would if they were sober. I suppose the claim is on the order of, “if you’re drunk and you buy a $5 picture frame for $2000 you have a good chance in most states of getting your money back.” The problem in that example is that while the seller may be required to refund your money, he is probably not guilty of fraud. Certainly if he couldn’t tell you were drunk, fraud is not an issue. In any case, the seller isn’t going to be facing a decade or better in jail because you screwed up.
At most you’ll get a refund, but to feminists this “refund” in the case of drunken sex involves ruthlessly punishing the poor bastard you had sex with, for your poor judgment.
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