JB,
Love it!
It’s only been a couple of weeks since I stumbled upon your web site but I’ve already read every one of your posts. And those of PPP at GoldenWrench.
Your words always make me stop and think. (Is that a felony, yet?)
Now that I’ve seen you on video I’d just like to add a note for Mr. JB.
You are one lucky dog!
JB, outstanding. All that makes your blog ‘must read’ translated into a video that’s ‘must view’. I look forward to future videos. Well done!
Sorry you’re already getting lewd comments. Guys, please, more respect for what JB is doing here. JB, in your position, I’d trash those comments. Trolls will pick up on them.
Mike Buchanan
JUSTICE FOR MEN AND BOYS
(and the women who love them)
Great editing: Not so long so I don’t have to go to the bathroom (as I have when watching other youtubers) and very “entertaining” edit (it reminded me a little of MA’s pictures). Maybe your BS is not so worthless as you say.
I would suggest that you normalize the volume next time. The music is much louder than your talking which makes it difficult to listen to at a comfortable volume.
I don’t think of the “Shades of Grey” books as being about the rape fantasy as much as a desire to have men take control again. All these feminists railed about wanting the choice to work and earn their own way in the world. What they didn’t understand (and still don’t) is that men weren’t going to suddenly slip on an apron and take over the traditional female role of raising the children and keeping house. Now women find themselves getting exactly what they asked for and now they’re shouldering more of the burden of taking care of the family than ever before– even if they do farm out some of the job to various daycare workers. Women like to say that they’re choosing to wait to have a family, but in a world that now demands two incomes to survive, how many have the option to stay home anymore?
I think the ultimate female fantasy, right now, is for men to step back in as the head of the family. Honestly I think that bondage fantasies are a sort of face-saving gesture so they can still tell themselves that they’re edgy and modern.
For your benefit, “Tits or GTFO” is a meme born on 4chan, a virtually uncensored, anonymous image-based internet forum (I advise against checking it out if you don’t have a strong stomach for disturbing and offensive). Since the members are predominately male, and the images exchanged primarily of a sexual nature, a rule developed that any poster claiming to be a woman should, before doing anything else, post a picture of her naked breasts. She would then be awarded with the attention she was believed to crave.
So that’s the context for you. In other words, this is a playful joke on misogynistic neckbeards and shameless attention whores. Don’t get offended, this is the Internet 🙂 !
Even when men “slip on an apron”, women aren’t happy. There’s been enough stay-at-home dads in the past generation that we’ve been able to gather statistics, and it’s not pretty. These men face much greater risk of divorce, and often the women leave for a man they meet at their workplace, often their boss or very powerful coworker.
It is funny how in the sexual sphere, everything is permitted and submission fantasies are accepted, even encouraged, yet they are frowned upon when they bleed out to the greater social life. It may be because people know that the sexual will remain private, but the rest will be in the open, and could influence other women to want to go back to more traditional roles, which would just be disastrous to feminism.
You’re too right that women don’t really want men in the submissive role even when they think they do. When men do acquiesce and take on the caretaker role it doesn’t seem to end well for the family. Women know on an instinctive level what they want but feminist brainwashing is so pervasive and powerful that they’ve been trained to ignore their true feelings.
Yes indeed.
50 Shades was about a billionaire buying things for the ‘heroine’ “against her will”. It was a fantasy of forced submission to largess.
“Oh, God! NO! I am an independent woman don’t buy me that car! I won’t drive it, I won’t”
“But it gives me extreme pleasure to buy you things. Don’t deny me my pleasures, I am a gorgeous young brilliant self-made 27 year old billionaire attracted to you for unknown and unexplainable reasons my special little snowflake. Here, take these shoes.I was thinking of you when I took that private jet to Rome.”
and so on…..Mr Grey (with everything but the money) working at a bait shack would just be considered a weird pervert and dismissed by the hordes of female readers.
Oh good lord, it’s worse than I thought. Of course the books made the rounds among my housewife friends. I flipped through the first chapter and thought it was so gawdawful that I never bothered to read any further.
Interestingly most of my friends, who just happen to be stay-at-home moms, really had a “meh” reaction to the whole thing.
My husband bought it for me and encouraged me to read it because women were telling him it was great. I read it until the end thinking it would get better, even if the writing sucked maybe the storyline would improve… It was awful. Then he tried to read it and couldn’t get past the first chapter. It’s Twilight, with billionaire playboy instead of sparkly vampire.
Of course we do have Schrodingers victim, where the victim has to consider their appearance and behaviour……….oh no Sorry about that, we don’t because that would be victim blaming………and bad!
Schrodingers feminist? Who should consider their appearance and behaviour……oh no Sorry again.
“Mr Grey (with everything but the money) working at a bait shack would just be considered a weird pervert and dismissed by the hordes of female readers.”
Good stuff. Rape fantasies are part of what we might call the “shadow” of women. And people who can’t accept and integrate their shadow tend to project it on others.
I think the Schroedinger’s analogy applies best to the victim under modern law since the determination of whether sex or rape occurred depends entirely on her perception, with later events in time affecting earlier ones
Excellent post… I especially liked how you show if you apply it to any of the “liberal” hot-items you’d be raked over the coals as racist, sexist, and every other “ist” but if you apply it to men, you can hear the crickets…
One of the things I learned long ago is most women are hypocrites and for the most part just like men (when it comes to sex). Although they tend to hate to admit it and will call you all sorts of names for suggesting it – but every guy knows it to be true. But there is one difference with women and men when it comes to sex – I can wash it off, but she can’t wash it out. Meaning: I’ll never bring a bastard home and try to pass it off as belonging to the woman I’m with. Women do it all the time. I remember in college one of the guys I knew had blue eyes, his wife had blue eyes – their kid had brown eyes. I was chatting with him and found he thought the kid was his. Now, this was when I was young and foolish and pointed out simple genetics – two recessives (blue eyes) cannot have a brown-eyed baby. He ended up divorced although he was stuck paying to the bastard kid – of course, she tried the “so-and-so raped me” till he found out she was a slut and most of the guys in their group had banged one out in her bare-back at one time or another. He was just the sucker stuck paying for it…
So when it comes to women’s “rape fantasies” it is one of the things they love to try to “realize”in reality. And they adore thinking that you couldn’t control yourself, because you found them so attractive that you just “had to have them”. That is why every guy knows that “no means maybe, and maybe almost always means yes” it ‘s all a question of time, setting, and mood… And it doesn’t matter if she is in a “relationship” she’s on the prowl if he isn’t there with her, and she’s doing all of the body-language that says – “I’m hot and want you”. She’s just looking for an excuse – of course, if she gets caught she’ll try to scream the old – “he forced me”… Yeah – it’s like trying to push a rope…. Can’t be done…
Anyway – keep up the good work…. Intelligent, articular, and you’re a looker too… 🙂
Good video.you were right when you said I’d probably enjoy the subject you chose.
Some quick edit notes – the interruptions to put JB logos and ‘brand’ type stuff was distracting when there’s nothing in what you’re saying referencing or needing such interruptions. Especially when you continue talking while it happens. Also a couple of the text stuff was too quick to read.
WHAT rape culture? I’ve been an urban dweller for decades, in some rough areas of cities and in several countries, and I know no-one who has been raped. No-one.
I said something almost the exact same thing as this the other day. That’s so funny. I said that if a woman is “kinky” it’s seen as “sexually liberated”. And of course… anyone who claims to be liberal MUST accept it and applaud it. If a woman longs for traditional gender roles she’s “oppressed by the patriarchy”.
So, although I don’t deny the genuineness of kink-wiring, I think that you’re absolutely right. It seems like the stronger something is repressed the more extreme the backlash. So kink in many cases could be an extreme backlash against the absence of true opportunities and choice to live out the naturally evolved gender identities.
I’m so glad to see someone else putting this idea into words!
Though I think women DO have bondage fantasies and kidnap fantasies and slave fantasies and “rape” fantasies. But part of why these fantasies are so loud and all-encompassing, I think, is because of all the manginas walking around who would never stand up to a woman and will just defer to her about anything. That’s not sexy to most women.
Yup. Reading a lot of quotes by Andrea Dworkin and her ilk… holy hell it was like reading erotica… some of the almost ‘lush’ descriptions of their sense of oppression and how violent and horrible heterosexual sex was (even if consensual) and how marriage was from a time of extended rape and kidnapped brides. I mean DEEPLY pathological. And a lot of these women, particularly Dworkin were just FUGLY. And you get the impression that HAD there been a man willing and able to act out her sexual fantasies with her, the rest of us would not have been subjected to her hysterics.
judgybitch
JB is a hottie. Now…Tits or GTFO!
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What does this mean, exactly?
You want to see my tits?
No.
Be nice. No more rude comments!
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At first I was like, how can this posh cunt be JB…Glad I watched it for longer than 1 minute. 🙂
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JB,
Love it!
It’s only been a couple of weeks since I stumbled upon your web site but I’ve already read every one of your posts. And those of PPP at GoldenWrench.
Your words always make me stop and think. (Is that a felony, yet?)
Now that I’ve seen you on video I’d just like to add a note for Mr. JB.
You are one lucky dog!
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I would…
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JB, outstanding. All that makes your blog ‘must read’ translated into a video that’s ‘must view’. I look forward to future videos. Well done!
Sorry you’re already getting lewd comments. Guys, please, more respect for what JB is doing here. JB, in your position, I’d trash those comments. Trolls will pick up on them.
Mike Buchanan
JUSTICE FOR MEN AND BOYS
(and the women who love them)
http://j4mb.wordpress.com
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I don’t mind a little ribald reaction, Mike, but the truly lewd stuff I absolutely trash.
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Great editing: Not so long so I don’t have to go to the bathroom (as I have when watching other youtubers) and very “entertaining” edit (it reminded me a little of MA’s pictures). Maybe your BS is not so worthless as you say.
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oh c’mon, just once.
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Nope. Not even once.
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Good video and good content.
I would suggest that you normalize the volume next time. The music is much louder than your talking which makes it difficult to listen to at a comfortable volume.
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I don’t think of the “Shades of Grey” books as being about the rape fantasy as much as a desire to have men take control again. All these feminists railed about wanting the choice to work and earn their own way in the world. What they didn’t understand (and still don’t) is that men weren’t going to suddenly slip on an apron and take over the traditional female role of raising the children and keeping house. Now women find themselves getting exactly what they asked for and now they’re shouldering more of the burden of taking care of the family than ever before– even if they do farm out some of the job to various daycare workers. Women like to say that they’re choosing to wait to have a family, but in a world that now demands two incomes to survive, how many have the option to stay home anymore?
I think the ultimate female fantasy, right now, is for men to step back in as the head of the family. Honestly I think that bondage fantasies are a sort of face-saving gesture so they can still tell themselves that they’re edgy and modern.
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For your benefit, “Tits or GTFO” is a meme born on 4chan, a virtually uncensored, anonymous image-based internet forum (I advise against checking it out if you don’t have a strong stomach for disturbing and offensive). Since the members are predominately male, and the images exchanged primarily of a sexual nature, a rule developed that any poster claiming to be a woman should, before doing anything else, post a picture of her naked breasts. She would then be awarded with the attention she was believed to crave.
So that’s the context for you. In other words, this is a playful joke on misogynistic neckbeards and shameless attention whores. Don’t get offended, this is the Internet 🙂 !
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Thanks for that explanation!
Didn’t know that.
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Even when men “slip on an apron”, women aren’t happy. There’s been enough stay-at-home dads in the past generation that we’ve been able to gather statistics, and it’s not pretty. These men face much greater risk of divorce, and often the women leave for a man they meet at their workplace, often their boss or very powerful coworker.
It is funny how in the sexual sphere, everything is permitted and submission fantasies are accepted, even encouraged, yet they are frowned upon when they bleed out to the greater social life. It may be because people know that the sexual will remain private, but the rest will be in the open, and could influence other women to want to go back to more traditional roles, which would just be disastrous to feminism.
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You’re too right that women don’t really want men in the submissive role even when they think they do. When men do acquiesce and take on the caretaker role it doesn’t seem to end well for the family. Women know on an instinctive level what they want but feminist brainwashing is so pervasive and powerful that they’ve been trained to ignore their true feelings.
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Yes indeed.
50 Shades was about a billionaire buying things for the ‘heroine’ “against her will”. It was a fantasy of forced submission to largess.
“Oh, God! NO! I am an independent woman don’t buy me that car! I won’t drive it, I won’t”
“But it gives me extreme pleasure to buy you things. Don’t deny me my pleasures, I am a gorgeous young brilliant self-made 27 year old billionaire attracted to you for unknown and unexplainable reasons my special little snowflake. Here, take these shoes.I was thinking of you when I took that private jet to Rome.”
and so on…..Mr Grey (with everything but the money) working at a bait shack would just be considered a weird pervert and dismissed by the hordes of female readers.
BTW….Great job, JB! 🙂
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Oh…and very well done PPP!
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Nice video. I think it will be very interesting when some butt-hurt feminist tries to make a response.
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Good job, looking forward to more vids.
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Oh good lord, it’s worse than I thought. Of course the books made the rounds among my housewife friends. I flipped through the first chapter and thought it was so gawdawful that I never bothered to read any further.
Interestingly most of my friends, who just happen to be stay-at-home moms, really had a “meh” reaction to the whole thing.
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Interesting observation. That was exactly my reaction, too.
Meh.
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My husband bought it for me and encouraged me to read it because women were telling him it was great. I read it until the end thinking it would get better, even if the writing sucked maybe the storyline would improve… It was awful. Then he tried to read it and couldn’t get past the first chapter. It’s Twilight, with billionaire playboy instead of sparkly vampire.
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You are kinda hot.
Keep it up sweetcheeks.
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Of course we do have Schrodingers victim, where the victim has to consider their appearance and behaviour……….oh no Sorry about that, we don’t because that would be victim blaming………and bad!
Schrodingers feminist? Who should consider their appearance and behaviour……oh no Sorry again.
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“Mr Grey (with everything but the money) working at a bait shack would just be considered a weird pervert and dismissed by the hordes of female readers.”
Very well said.
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Agreed.
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Good stuff. Rape fantasies are part of what we might call the “shadow” of women. And people who can’t accept and integrate their shadow tend to project it on others.
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Well I liked it. And only now I’m getting to know what you do. Pleased to meet you. 🙂
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I think the Schroedinger’s analogy applies best to the victim under modern law since the determination of whether sex or rape occurred depends entirely on her perception, with later events in time affecting earlier ones
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Excellent post… I especially liked how you show if you apply it to any of the “liberal” hot-items you’d be raked over the coals as racist, sexist, and every other “ist” but if you apply it to men, you can hear the crickets…
One of the things I learned long ago is most women are hypocrites and for the most part just like men (when it comes to sex). Although they tend to hate to admit it and will call you all sorts of names for suggesting it – but every guy knows it to be true. But there is one difference with women and men when it comes to sex – I can wash it off, but she can’t wash it out. Meaning: I’ll never bring a bastard home and try to pass it off as belonging to the woman I’m with. Women do it all the time. I remember in college one of the guys I knew had blue eyes, his wife had blue eyes – their kid had brown eyes. I was chatting with him and found he thought the kid was his. Now, this was when I was young and foolish and pointed out simple genetics – two recessives (blue eyes) cannot have a brown-eyed baby. He ended up divorced although he was stuck paying to the bastard kid – of course, she tried the “so-and-so raped me” till he found out she was a slut and most of the guys in their group had banged one out in her bare-back at one time or another. He was just the sucker stuck paying for it…
So when it comes to women’s “rape fantasies” it is one of the things they love to try to “realize”in reality. And they adore thinking that you couldn’t control yourself, because you found them so attractive that you just “had to have them”. That is why every guy knows that “no means maybe, and maybe almost always means yes” it ‘s all a question of time, setting, and mood… And it doesn’t matter if she is in a “relationship” she’s on the prowl if he isn’t there with her, and she’s doing all of the body-language that says – “I’m hot and want you”. She’s just looking for an excuse – of course, if she gets caught she’ll try to scream the old – “he forced me”… Yeah – it’s like trying to push a rope…. Can’t be done…
Anyway – keep up the good work…. Intelligent, articular, and you’re a looker too… 🙂
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legitimately so. the books were originally a twilight fanfic.
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Good video.you were right when you said I’d probably enjoy the subject you chose.
Some quick edit notes – the interruptions to put JB logos and ‘brand’ type stuff was distracting when there’s nothing in what you’re saying referencing or needing such interruptions. Especially when you continue talking while it happens. Also a couple of the text stuff was too quick to read.
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That was all intentional. Thanks for the feedback all the same. x PPP
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WHAT rape culture? I’ve been an urban dweller for decades, in some rough areas of cities and in several countries, and I know no-one who has been raped. No-one.
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Well, duh, Joe. You obviously live in the RAPIST’S neighborhood.
😛
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I said something almost the exact same thing as this the other day. That’s so funny. I said that if a woman is “kinky” it’s seen as “sexually liberated”. And of course… anyone who claims to be liberal MUST accept it and applaud it. If a woman longs for traditional gender roles she’s “oppressed by the patriarchy”.
So, although I don’t deny the genuineness of kink-wiring, I think that you’re absolutely right. It seems like the stronger something is repressed the more extreme the backlash. So kink in many cases could be an extreme backlash against the absence of true opportunities and choice to live out the naturally evolved gender identities.
I’m so glad to see someone else putting this idea into words!
Though I think women DO have bondage fantasies and kidnap fantasies and slave fantasies and “rape” fantasies. But part of why these fantasies are so loud and all-encompassing, I think, is because of all the manginas walking around who would never stand up to a woman and will just defer to her about anything. That’s not sexy to most women.
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bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Yup. Reading a lot of quotes by Andrea Dworkin and her ilk… holy hell it was like reading erotica… some of the almost ‘lush’ descriptions of their sense of oppression and how violent and horrible heterosexual sex was (even if consensual) and how marriage was from a time of extended rape and kidnapped brides. I mean DEEPLY pathological. And a lot of these women, particularly Dworkin were just FUGLY. And you get the impression that HAD there been a man willing and able to act out her sexual fantasies with her, the rest of us would not have been subjected to her hysterics.
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