It’s an age old question: how do I trick my boyfriend/husband into getting me pregnant. Well, thank the lord for Google. It’s no longer necessary to try and figure out which of your slag friends has the secret and then try to wrestle it out of her. No need to navigate that tricky territory that allows some women to think that ethics and fairness and morality and honesty are worthy goals. No need to tiptoe around women who think men ought to have some say in whether they wish to be fathers.
All hail Google!
Let’s take a walk on the wild side, shall we?
From Yahoo answers:
How do you trick your boy friend into ejaculating inside your vagina if he wont cause he knows you want a baby?
Alisonn
I got 2 ways.
1. Poke your arm with a needle or something and tell him you got a birth control shot, and then if he wants proof show him the poke…
2. Buy some birth control or get some from planned parenthood, then pretend to take them but dont really take them…
Queenbee
just tell him you started taking Birth control wait a month and then he can go inside of you….
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090209193212AAWHBdJ
Here’s another lady with the same conundrum:
How can I trick my boyfriend into getting me pregnant?
Laura
okay this is what i did. well first pock holes on all of his condoms and GET OFF BIRTH CONTROL
if that doesn’t work try and convince that your on the pill and to not use a condom. also whenever having sex do it missionary position. that should do the trick.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100106115143AAbNoGA
To be fair, most of the commenters think a trick like this one is dastardly, immature, awful, terrible, horrible….. and then they go ahead and give their best suggestions.
Here’s calli21.
ou really shouldnt, if your not ready, your not ready.
But one trick i saw on eastenders ( haahaa, i no ) is to poke some pin holes in the condomn. you could get prenant like that!
EDIT: Cassie, no normally i dont enocourge behaviour thats wrong but im telling you, people with the urge to get pregnant WANT to and WILL find a way of going about it. its human nature(:
she would have found a way anyway, im sure theres many websites on google
These all sound like illiterate teenagers, right? Do they teach fucking spelling anymore? Grown women don’t do this, now do they?
Oh dear.
Upon my arrival in Florida, I contacted Alex and he agreed to see me. I think he was honestly a bit confused as to how and why I came to be in town. It was a miserable weekend. I cried on his bathroom floor. We had miserable break-up sex….and I purposely stopped taking my birth control pills.
http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-me-i-tried-trick-my-ex-getting-me-pregnant
Here’s another fine example of mature ladies being really mature:
Okay Ladies, here I am again, much older, more mature as well im sure(:
Well, my boyfriend and I have been having sex with a condom, my estimated ovulation date was on July 31st, gave him a hand job on the 29th, he finished and my hand semi-dry of semen, i inserted my fingers in me, had sex on the 30th with about 10-15 needle size holes in the condom(new condom) and he finished in me like 5 minutes into it, it was a quickie, no worries unprotected sex today aug. 2nd.
http://ehealthforum.com/health/pregnant-by-pin-holes-in-condom-t243294-a1.html
And one more:
I am 33 years old, single & would like to have a baby – the traditional way.
I have decided I will pick up a man when I am out one night and take him home for sex. I am not on the pill, but do not want to lie and say I am on the pill. So i want to use a condom, but poke holes or damage it in some other way before hand, so that I can be impregnated. I understand that my chances of getting pregnant are lower this way.
Surely, surely NO ONE is going to help this lady, are they?
Here is Antonio, White Knight extraordinaire, chastising her and helping her all at the same time:
wow i did’t know women like you exist ok, ummm go and get a condom for him a cut a small hole at the tip of the comdom with nail scissors, and i think what you are doing is crual as he has to know he is going to be a father, also it is extremely cruel for the child as he needs to know that he has a father.
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080710045306AA2QK9w
Let’s do our part to help the young ladies in search of stolen sperm out, and create a cheat sheet of techniques:
Lie about being on birth control
Poke yourself in the arm and claim you had a birth control shot
Stop taking birth control and lie about that
Give a handjob and insert your hand into your vagina when it’s covered in sperm
Poke or cut condoms
Seriously though, these girls are amateurs. The advanced ladies have a totally different technique: buy fake birth control pills off the Internet and wash them down right in front of him! Who could fail to trust when you took the pills right in front of him!
Genius.
There are actually a number of fake birth control pills out there, going by different brand names.
Evital
http://features.rr.com/article/0cZbbxJ9lje4V?q=Food+and+Drug+Administration
Ovulen 21
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/18/us/fake-birth-control-pills-lead-to-indictment-of-6.html
Diane 35
http://lajeunepolitique.com/2013/02/05/diane-35-the-fake-birth-control-pill/
If you Google “birth control sabotage”, you will get a first page of results that refers only to MEN sabotaging women’s birth control as a means of controlling them.
From poking holes in condoms to stealing birth control pills, doctors are working to identify ‘reproductive coercion,’ which is more widespread than previously thought. About 16% of women — of all levels of society — have experienced it in some form.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/men-sabotaging-women-birth-control-article-1.1361932
Jezebel denies that women participate in birth control sabotage at anything approaching the rates of men.
“Increasingly,” The Cut reports, “birth-control sabotage is viewed as a tool not for baby-crazed female stalkers, but for a class of predominantly male abusers who want to exercise control over their partner’s body, make her dependent upon them, or secure a long-term presence in her life.”
http://jezebel.com/power-hungry-men-sabotaging-womens-birth-control-is-a-510465235
Here’s Policy Mic at least admitting that women play the sabotage game, too.
While birth control sabotage is generally more of a problem for women, men are affected as well. Like any other form of intimate violence, reproductive coercion is usually used to assert power over an individual. While it may be rare, in some cases, some women may lie about being on birth control in order to stay in a relationship.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/24443/why-in-the-world-is-birth-control-sabotage-happening
While it may be rare?!?!?!?!
Google says it’s as rare as oxygen in the atmosphere.
Jody (not her real name), a 32-year-old account manager for a major New York ad firm, decided to speed things along with her boyfriend two years ago by getting pregnant without telling him. “It’s not about trapping the guy,” Jody says. “That’s kind of old-fashioned. Yeah, you want him to be into it, but there are other ways to get a guy to commit. If you’re smart and in a good relationship, it’s just about the fact that you want a kid.” Even in her circle of young, urban, and gainfully employed friends, Jody says, this particular brand of subterfuge isn’t exactly condemned the way one might expect. In fact, it’s sort of, well, normal. “I see and hear people talk about it, and I understand. I get it,” she says, “and I don’t even think it’s that manipulative. It’s more like, ‘Hey, the timing is right for me. I got pregnant—oops! Well, it’s here, let’s have it.’ I think that’s more the way it is now than it was back in the day when you had to marry someone before you got pregnant. Marriage doesn’t matter now.”
In fact, it’s sort of, well, normal.
In fact, it’s sort of, well, normal
In fact, it’s sort of, well, normal.
In fact, it’s sort of, well, normal.
Jesus. I’m shocked. I am officially shocked. I don’t know why I should be, though. One of my friends did exactly this: she was 39, no husband in sight, she wanted a baby, she picked up a guy in a bar and lied about birth control and she has her baby.
It happened long before I met her, and our kids are very close, so as distasteful as I find her actions, we are still friends. I guess I’m guilty of thinking it’s “normal”, too. What an unpleasant insight.
Feminist, liberal websites like to make fun of the “sperm-stealing” lady trope, but it’s far, far more common than it seems anyone wants to admit.
http://jezebel.com/5862929/man-accuses-girlfriend-of-stealing-his-sperm-to-get-pregnant
We even rock out to the idea in song:
We already know that men have no reproductive rights, but just how extensively men are abused is still a topic that no one wants to discuss.
What options do men have given that reproductive coercion is not just common, it’s NORMAL? From where I’m sitting, it looks utterly INSANE for any man to trust any woman when it comes to birth control.
Women can and will lie to you. It’s normal.
Did she pop her pill right in front of you? Better check what brand.
Does she make sure to always have condoms on hand? Better hold them up to the light, and check the tip, too. Nail scissors on the nightstand are a definite red flag.
I don’t even know how to end this post today.
What the fuck?
It’s all I can come up with.
What.
The.
Fuck.
Lots of love,
JB
judgybitch 
Not to mention straight-up rape.
*Shrug* You’re right, though. It is insane to simply trust somebody. Fellow guys, if you don’t want kids – get a vasectomy. Even if you just don’t want kids right now, consider it and weigh your options.
Oh, but you may have trouble finding a doctor willing to do the procedure. Feminists complain deeply about how misogynist it is that doctors can refuse to perform tubal ligation on patients who haven’t had children yet, but there’s utter silence about the fact that the same doctors also refuse to perform vasectomies under the same circumstances.
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I am totally not being snarky at all. This is not news to you? Seriously? You just accept that women do this, routinely?
Is this common knowledge? Am I really that out of it?
I’m going to find the comments fascinating, I think.
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Yes JB, this is a prime example of what Dalrock was talking about with female solipsism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
http://dalrock.wordpress.com/?s=solipsism
Women believe, quite naturally, that the only reality that exists, and is sure, is the one in their minds. They can justify any behavior of their own based on that reality. This is the way of the woman.
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My mother actually warned me about the possibility, and I’ve seen a couple of… suspicious pregnancies among my acquaintances.
I don’t know how routine it is. It’s just… one of many risks of dating. You’d be surprised by the number of guys who guard their drinks against date rape drugs, as well.
Men are, I think, rather more aware of how screwed they really are in the current social climate than they generally let on. I know few men who actually enjoy dating; it’s a harrowing and paranoia-inducing experience for a lot of us. I don’t expect the situation where men are the active parties in pursuing new relationships, and women the passive, to last for too much longer.
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Most men who have taken the Red Pill have come to view women as the far less moral gender. So trusting most of them for anything is just out of the question.
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Do you mean women sabotaging birth control are living in their own reality, or me not understanding just how widespread the practice IS is an example of living in my own reality?
Or both?
I wasn’t actively aware of that particular reality, but I am now!
I’m so confused!
Is it solipsistic in here or is it just me?
🙂
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Hm, in the spirit of being a mean prick (prick being the new normal), buy some morning after pills and grind them in her drink the following couple days. No harm, no foul, right?
Since women seem to think it’s normal, men should try it to.
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Women can and will lie to you. It’s normal.
Any “man” who hasn’t figured this out by the time he reaches puberty probably deserves to be institutionalized. He certainly isn’t fit to live on his own in the modern world.
Does she make sure to always have condoms on hand? Better hold them up to the light, and check the tip, too.
What I said above goes double for any “man” who allows a woman to provide him with condoms.
Seriously, it has become really difficult for me to feel sorry for any man stupid enough to let himself get trapped in this way. Examples of casualties abound, more than enough to serve as a warning to any man with functioning eyes, ears, and cerebra (probably a minority, I’ll admit). So unless the guy has lived in a cave in the Himalayas by himself for most of his life, there’s no excuse for this to be happening at all. (Granted, “phallocerebralism,” or “thinking with one’s dick” is the primary cause of these disasters, a vaccination for this affliction having yet to be invented).
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Assuming that no man has thought of this before and tried it yet, it would be just the luck of the first guy who tries it to discover that the combination of the morning-after drug and alcohol is a lethal combination.
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The reason any woman would have to resort to this is because she can’t be loved, and there is no reason to trust her with your feelings for the rest of your life. It’s that simple. There’s no “power issue” or anything of the sort involved.
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Okay, I found a condom in my husband’s drawer (they’re pretty old) and I poked FIFTEEN holes it it with a safety pin.
He couldn’t see any of them. I even told him I poked holes. He couldn’t see a single one.
Never use a condom a woman has had her hand on. You can see the holes in the package, but not the condom itself.
If you are going to risk it, you need to see the package.
Holy crap. This is all so unsexy.
What is supposed to fun and pleasant and all kinds of awesome has turned into this?
Yuck. Thank god I’m married.
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Yea, apparently there are very few side effects.
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Ha! If that were true, there is no way women would outnumber men on college campuses. In fact, there probably wouldn’t be any women at all.
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Examples only abound for those who are looking for them. It’s not like the media comments on the issue, and until they have a reason to look into men’s rights, many men assume they don’t need to, that it’s a nonissue.
I think this is common -implicit- knowledge, but few people outside the manosphere actually discuss it – so it isn’t really explicitly available. I don’t think it’s remarkable at all that somebody could be unaware of the possibility.
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Only virgins lol!
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hahahaah.
I meant that women sabotaging birth control is them living in their own reality. They’ve decided that it’s time for them to have a baby…that’s all that exists or matters, and whatever has to happen to make it so is fair game.
You not knowing about it is probably you just being out of the game for so long. 🙂
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I want to be as disturbed by this as you, but unfortunately I know too many girls my age and younger who are doing this – and mind you, I’m only 20.
The full article on details.com was very enlightening. Some of the comments in, and in response to, it particularly highlight the mindset of toxic females blind to their own hypocrisy and privilege.
“A lot of us feel like it’s not even really fair that men should get to vote [on having children]”
“We know that boys who grow up to become men don’t necessarily want to be men. They like to be boys. And so women say, ‘You know what? He’s gonna just have to snap out of it—and my pregnancy will be the thing to do it.'”
“‘How is all of this my responsibility and my obligation when none of this was my choice?’— if you hear a dripping sound, it’s my heart bleeding! Your reproductive choices stop with YOUR body, douche. If you didn’t want to get this “new woman” (someone you hardly knew apparently) pregnant, you should have used a condom. None of these men garner the least bit of sympathy from me. wah wah wah. whine. whine. whine.”
I am so embarrassed of my gender when I read things like this.
Thanks for the work you do, JB.
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I’ve seen this so much that I anticipate I’ll have to end up paying child support every time I have sex. It keeps my standards up and makes me try to learn about her relationship history as much as possible..
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I have to say, that, since my puberty, I have seen hot women as creatures with no morals at all. And I loved them! It is normal: I was a teen in the 80s and I was accustomed of watching British female tourists in the Spanish seaside, during the summers.
But to me, until my mid 30s, was just a lack of sexual morals. And that was OK. I believed that women with sexual depravity and drunken habits could have a very good heart in other hand.
At mid 30s I started taking the Red Pill and I start watching hot women as creatures with no morals IN ANY WAY. Like rotten souls or worst: no soul at all. And now I love them more. Of course, is the fascination you can have for a viper or a scorpion. If you have enough doses of Red Pill you can play with vipers and scorpions safely.
You do not have pregnancy a problems with hookers or women 45+. And there is a lot of hot 45+ women out there.
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Hookers would never ever do this to me. I trust them.
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Meet Liz Jones!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2056875/Liz-Jones-baby-craving-drove-steal-husbands-sperm-ultimate-deception.html
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hmm brings back lots of memories. Now I have a delightful 11 year old daughter. It took me 7 years to get full shared care of her since once it became clear I didn’t want to have a long term relationship with her mother she did all she could to keep me away. I had the snip.
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I’ve known about this since I was considered old enough for my parents to worry about sex. My uncle got roped into staying with his second wife when he had had enough of her insane Bi-polar antics. So he was considering leaving her to remarry his first wife, whom he had two kids with already, and was saying she’d be interested in rekindling their relationship to see if it went anywhere.
Lo and behold, bi-polar bitch magically becomes pregnant. He stays with her, she ruins his life. She ran him into the ground, and their family has served as the warning to everyone else in our extended family of what not to do in that, in raising kids (she has 3 kids from 3 fathers), and sooooo many other things.
Keep your own condoms. Keep her hands off them. Dispose of them in ways where she can’t get ahold of used condoms and reinsert it to get pregnant. Don’t take blowjobs from her if you think she’s got baby rabies, because she can easily go into the bathroom, spit it out, reinsert.
Paranoid? Maybe.
But I’ve seen what crazy can do.
Don’t put your dick in crazy, don’t put rings on sluts.
For entertainment purposes, I submit this:
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I don’t know where the surprise comes from. Women are inherently selfish and this is a natural consequence.
By they way, I’m not judging. Being selfish is neither good or bad. Women just naturally evolved that way.
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Oh, and my brother experienced this. He caught a women in the bathroom trying to insert his sperm from a condom.
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Leap beat me to it.
Get a vasectomy. If you cannot get one or feel you’re too young to get one, and you’re still going to risk premarital sex, then:
1. Keep away from the following kinds of women:
a. Married women
b. Never-married-without-children women aged 35 and over
c. Women who have ever been treated for any kind of mental illness or addiction.
d. Women who exhibit any kind of mental instability or moodiness
e. Any woman who’s ever had an abortion
f. Any woman who has ever taken or currently takes any kind of psychotropic medication to treat a mental illness
2. Buy and use your own condoms. Accept no condoms from women. Ever.
3. Use condoms with spermicide.
4. Dispose of that used condom in a way such that she cannot salvage the semen and inseminate herself with it. (It’s been reported to happen – women retrieving used condoms from bathroom trash cans, depositing the contents into their vaginas, and impregnating themselves.)
5. If a woman tells you that you’ve “accidentally” impregnated her, find out exactly what she has to say about it and what she wants. Document everything, as much as you can.
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Flush that used condom.
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Isn’t that really bad for the sewage system and the environment?
How DO you dispose of a condom safely?
If you add a pump of hand soap before you throw it out, would that work?
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It CAN mess up sewage systems and plumbing. Rarely does. I’ve flushed condoms my whole life and never had issues with it.
I know a few players that will just put condoms in tissues or toilet paper and take it home with them, to throw it out there.
If you’re that worried about the environment or your sewage system though, you could turn it inside out and wash the semen out in a sink. Just go ‘clean up’ after sex and do it then. Rinse it, wipe down with toilet paper to get anything your eye can’t see, and then put in trash.
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That would be the method I’d use if I was living with the woman I was sleeping with, or planning on spending the night. I just can’t stand the thought of keeping a used condom and taking it home, but that’s me.
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A boyfriend of mine had this happen to him. The woman was a nut-job too. She had had a few abortions and decided that she didn’t want to risk having anymore and said that since he was good looking she might as well have his kid. He was so screwed up from that relationship that ours was doomed from the start. The only thing I’d blame him for was that he was still careless and promiscuous after having been through that (word gets around). You’d think he would have learned. It’s a small miracle he didn’t have any more kids until he was married and ready for a real family.
Speaking of unwanted children– I had a wild weekend. My biological mother found me on Ancestry.com. We had both done DNA tests and the results came back with a “close relative” match. When she emailed me she thought she had found a first cousin– surprise! It your long-lost daughter! I just found out I have a half-sister. I’m still reeling….
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Oh wow!
That must engender some pretty complicated feelings.
Are you OK?
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I am. Thanks for asking. I’m still processing. I think it’s much harder on her side because she had me in total secret. No one, including her husband (whom she met after she gave birth to me), her daughter or her granddaughter knew about me. I guess my sister is handling it well but is really emotional. I haven’t spoken to her yet because she’s cautious about introducing an unknown to her daughter (I don’t blame her one bit). I guess she started crying when she saw my picture.
What’s really wild is that I look just like her. I bear a stronger resemblance to the family than the sister who grew up with them. That has got to be really strange for her.
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Gosh my reply is muddled. I have spoken to my bio-mom but not my sister. I look more like the mom than my sister does.
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Yes, that is weird. My niece looks so much like my mother it’s eerie.
I don’t envy her and I’m glad my own daughters don’t look like her.
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I’m don’t have an emotional attachment one way or another except that it’s eerie to finally see extended family that looks like me– though my daughter looks a lot like me. I guess I look a lot like the maternal grandmother too– but she died a few years back.
I’m just hoping this isn’t some giant Pandora’s Box. We’ll see…
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What a secret for your mother to carry.
Bio mother I mean.
Strange that we don’t have a name for a woman who has made that sacrifice.
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She’s really emotional because she’s finally able to tell the truth to everyone after all these years. She was incredibly brave. She was kicked out of her home when her mother found out. She carried everything out in secret. I told her I feel nothing but gratitude for what she has done for me.
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And yes- there should be a special recognition for women like her.
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That actually makes sense. As professionals, it would certainly NOT be in their best “professional” interests to pull such stunts.
How sad have things become that hookers can be compared favorably to “non-professional” adultolescent females?
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I don’t think it’s remarkable at all that somebody could be unaware of the possibility.
You’re almost certainly correct. I have an unfortunate habit of interpreting as literal the adjective “common” in the phrase “common sense.” I really do need to fix that.
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There’s no “power issue” or anything of the sort involved.
Yes, actually, there is, and for the very reasons you cited. Because the average young woman today is incapable of loving –and thefefore incapable of being loved— she has to resort to a power play of some sort in order to get what she wants out of a man without giving anything in return. For now, “sperm theft” is one such power play, one that, if executed correctly, gives her the power she needs over her prey of choice, giving her what she wants without any consideration (using that word in the business law sense).
If the average woman today were capable of loving (and thus being loved in return), this ploy would be unnecessary and so rare as to constitute breaking news (and resulting in society-wide shame heaped upon the offending party) when it did happen.
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d. Women who exhibit any kind of mental instability or moodiness
In other words, pretty much ALL women…
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Carry a can of kerosine with you and drop the condom(s) in it when finished. In other words, remove any and all doubt as to your intentions, as well as any temptation on the part of the woman to retrieve the baggy for “repurposing.”
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The only way I’m willing to sire a child is if a woman is willing to have 23 more, If I’m having kids why not have a whole starting line up of a football teams worth.(the reason for24 is because I’m Canadian and Canadian football is 12 a side)
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I posted a link a while back to the “craigslist-vasectomy-guy” story, so I won’t post it again, but it is a classic turn-about when a casual girlfriend/fuckbuddy tried to trap a guy with a pregnancy that he knew wasn’t even his and had the notarized documentation to prove it.
It’s true, guys. Either get the snip or supply your own condoms every time…
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How easy/difficult is it to undo?
Suppose I could google it, but I’m sure someone here knows.
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Meh… I think it’s more than they are less aware of their privilege. Men are told how privileged they are, constantly. Maybe that has something to do with it?
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“Although vasectomy is considered a permanent form of contraception, advances in microsurgery have improved the success of vasectomy reversal procedures. The procedures remain technically demanding and expensive, and may not restore the pre-vasectomy condition.” – Wikipedia
So on top of it being costly, it might not even work.
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One word: OBAMACARE
If whore pills are covered, why not vasectomy reversal?
Going to the vet should not be permanent.
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Of course, being left unsaid in this whole mess is the implied consequences to the men for these women’s actions:
For the next 18 years, you will be forced into slavery to support this woman and this child that you did not want. She will use the implied force, threat, and violence of our government and all of its armed branches to force you to do this, or else you will be put into prison (or, if you like my more extreme and true definition, they’ll eventually kill you).
http://notboutthing.blogspot.com/2013/06/good-discussion-in-comments-section.html
This is the result of all of this, and no one at details.com seems to have a problem with this. In any other circumstance, an action like this would be considered fraud and the perpetrator would go to prison, but in family law, the man is shackled while the woman gets everything she wanted with no risk to her, whatsoever.
So what if everyone finds out she did this? What are they going to do to her?
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Makes me wonder how much the condom failure rate is truly “unintentional”
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At $50 USD a pop, coercing your girlfriend to drink morning after pills on a suspicion is an expensive pastime. Not as expensive as fatherhood, granted, on a long term basis, but still more expensive than masturbation or the $20 copay on that vasectomy. Side effects include gnarly 2-week long PMS, by the way. It’s not a good plan.
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JB, men keep telling “good women” like you that women are generally demonic these days. Maybe someday you will finally believe us.
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“What the fuck?
It’s all I can come up with.
What.
The.
Fuck.”
What you said.
I’m starting to lose my faith in humanity with this one. It is essential to my psyche at this moment to believe these women are outliers. Need to look at videos of puppies and bunnies or something now.
(adorable baby photo though! Just want to eat him up, the cuddly little woo)
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I’m getting close, dude.
Sad, but true.
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This whole issue is super bizarre to me. I have been (explicitly pro-creatively) offered more generic material than I could possibly know what to do with… Ick.
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“JB, men keep telling “good women” like you that women are generally demonic these days. Maybe someday you will finally believe us.”
I have this same issue with my sister. She’s been married for a very long time and has no idea what the dating scene is like in 2013. She also lives in an ultra-conservative circle, and often believes that people are only interested in doing things the godly way.
Ch-yeah.
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THEY ARE NOT OUTLIERS.
Just today a Facebook acquaintance went into a profane public tirade because her husband won’t let her hook up with women on the side now that she has suddenly discovered she is bisexual.
This man works two jobs to support her unemployable ass by the way.
This shit happens all the time.
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She also lives in an ultra-conservative circle, and often believes that people are only interested in doing things the godly way.
I run into this all the time too (my own mother being a textbook example of it). The English language lacks an adequate vocabulary to describe how utterly clueless these people are.
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Also the brazenness to write about it like that. As if her morphing morals don’t really matter, she wanted what she wanted, so that was justification enough.
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There was a guy in Australia on the hook for child support for one conceived with a hooker. His wife wasn’t happy.
I’d consider suing her for failure to provide a safe work environment.
PS, it’s legal here.
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It is mostly because our culture is female supremacist. but I do notice that many women seem to enjoy being amoral mercenaries.
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One wonders what the reaction of the XO Jane commentariat would be if the title were “It Happened to Me: My Boyfriend Intentionally Tried to Get Me Pregnant by Poking Holes in the Condom.” They’d probably be calling for him to be thrown in prison.
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Yes, I just stopped arguing with her. No way for her to see or understand, nor understand divorce theft and its prevalence.
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I wish I could say otherwise but I am not surprised. I think I’ve seen that “desperate woman lies to get pregnant” trope too many times. The worst part in all of this, the woman is almost never held fully accountable for it, condemned, shamed, for doing such an immoral thing. It’s all swept under the rug and Crazy Desperate Slut™ gets her baby and all is well in the end. Yay for sluts!
I love how feminists oppose the male birth control pill because “men could lie about taking it”, but they never, EVER question just how much women do this. Given the current state of the world I very much doubt that birth control sabotage is a trend amongst any men. I have never known any man to want to put themselves in a position that could backfire so badly on them. Sorry ladies, but men just aren’t that desperate for jail time and massive financial burden. Given all the other feminist myths out there, I think this is another feminist myth used to allow women to keep their monopoly on reproductive rights and the family courts. It is disgusting and morally corrupt and quite frankly, makes me lose hope in my own gender. Why would you do this to people? Have women lost all sense of morals, empathy? Why would you bring a child into the world like this and not let them be born out of love and into a stable family unit?
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As Goober notes, the real problem here isn’t the kid, it’s the child support payments she’s going to extract from her sometimes all too willing dupe of a sex partner. These women scream “gimme the money” just as loudly as “I want a child”.
Keep away from the following kinds of women: Married women
If your goal is to avoid a child support order, that’s backwards. In most states, she can’t get child support from you because her children are legally presumed to be her husband’s no matter what paternity testing says. Therefore, the only women you should be having sex with are married women, because they cannot use these tricks to ensnare you.
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you’re right, and doing it honestly isn’t a picnic either. i was invited to enjoy a night of (please excuse me) creampie action, after which i was told “you better not have gotten me pregnant”. i said “you’re kidding”. nope. so off to walgreen’s, buy the pills, buy a drink, watch her take the first, pray she takes the second, listen to her bitch for weeks after.
i trust no one anymore. except dudes.
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why we gave them the right to vote, I will never know.
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That’s why I wish they’d hurry up and get Vasalgel / RISUG trials completed and product to market! One injection. No side-effects. Effective for ~10 years. Easily reversible. Drug companies don’t like it because it’s cheap & it’s a one-off treatment.
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I’ve had several people advise me to ‘forget’ my pill, or poke holes in a condom. I’d love a 2nd child, husband says no – I’m often asked if I want more kids. The most common response is ‘maybe he’ll change his mind’, closely followed by ‘I’m sure he’d change his mind if you did get pregnant’ – which, now I think about it, isn’t far from making the suggestion to just go ahead and do it. No one has ever said maybe *I’ll* change my mind, and be happy we stuck with one child. There’s definitely an attitude that my opinion is more valid than his – that it’s ok to do this, because he’s only a man, and needs a woman to tell him what he really wants – the justification being that it’ll make him happier in the long run. (Oh, the patriarchy keeps us women down and believing in our own inferiority SO well, right? Men are ALWAYS patronising women, those condescending brutes, and don’t treat us like real people with valid thoughts and feelings. Grrrr.)
And yeah, I’m still hoping for a genuine accident. But there is no way in hell I’d do that to him on purpose! Even if I’m right, and a second child would be a great thing for him as well as me (and I know my son would really benefit from a sibling) I could not base the entire life of my child on a lie! I actually respect my husband, and I was shocked and appalled at women I consider friends making these comments (they kinda pretended it was a joke when I said NO WAY…but, I wasn’t convinced.)
I have also talked to him about it – told him it was driving me crazy taking the pill every day when I was so broody (I went through a while of crying each time I took it, when several of my friends were pregnant with their 2nd) and we decided together that he would be in charge of contraception so I couldn’t be tempted to sabotage it (forgetting to take a pill would be too easy to do – and the thought that he’d not ever be able to be entirely certain I didn’t do it on purpose… urgh!)
At some point, I’m going to give up hoping for a miracle change of mind, or accept I won’t have any more children. And then we’ll discuss a vascectomy again. He wanted to get one as soon as our son was born – and has waited until I’m ready to say ok. Mutual respect. I won’t give that up, even for a second baby.
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And in other news, here in the UK, everyone is going crazy that newspapers are saying ‘Yay, we Brits won Wimbledon for the first time in 77 years’ when we had a female champ 36 years ago. (And the complainers are themselves ignoring the fact that we’ve had doubles champs more recently). What, you mean headlines have used shorthand? NO! Surely not! It MUST be that they think women aren’t people! Or, you know, that the men’s singles are the biggest part of the competition – and when anyone asks ‘Who won Wimbledon?’ they will be referring to the men’s singles and not expecting a list of all the winners of all 5 competitions!
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that one’s been hanging around 9gag for a while now
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I don’t know. Child support is just money after all, but that kid is not set up for a good life at all. Never had a chance.
What I think always saved me was keeping up the appearance of relative poverty.
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Never, ever let a women believe you to be anything other than impoverished.
I’m actually relatively well off – nice career and all that – I often tell women I’m unemployed. Also, I wear worn out clothes and shoes with holes in them. Which is funny because it runs against what most men do (exaggerate/show-off their wealth) .
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Who the hell cares about women’s tennis?
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To have a girlfriend or a wife is for losers. if you can afford hot hookers quite often, why on Earth would you like a non-professional?
With hookers you learn that no woman on Earth should cost more than 200 euros/shag. There are hookers who charge 500 euros/shag or even 1000 euros/hag or more, but they do it because they have appeared in a TV show or something like that. Or maybe because they perform such a strange acts.
Please, tell me: what has any “non-professional” that a hooker has not?
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In Spain too.
But how the hooker found that man?
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“About 16% of women — of all levels of society — have experienced it”
BuuuuuullSHIT!
Consider:
Woman wants a kid, partner doesn’t. Solution:
Fake injection, take fake pills, poke holes in condoms, wait.
Afterward, have the kid you wanted and get it paid for by the poor guy you trapped (plus the state if he leaves your sorry ass).
Negative consequences for a woman? Nil.
Chance of success: High.
Now…
Man wants a kid, partner doesn’t. Solution:
Provided she’s not getting the injection and has no implant or coil you could switch her birth control to a fake, but only if you could get the EXACT SAME pack. You can poke holes in condoms… which will only work in the absence of hormonal birth control of a copper IUD.
If she gets pregnant, hope she doesn’t have a termination.
If she has a baby, hope she puts your name on the birth certificate so you don’t have to pay for DNA testing to battle for custody if needed.
If she decides she’s bored of you, you continue to pay for the kid, a court will probably give her custody, and she will control how much you get to see your child.
Negative consequences for a man? Many.
Chance of success: Low.
Even negating the disparity in cost-benefit, according to http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html 28% of women use the pill, 16.1% use the condom, 5.2% use withdrawal. So let’s round it up and say 50% of women are using birth control methods that could, theoretically, be tampered with or sabotaged by a man (difficulty of tricking a woman into taking a false pill notwithstanding). That means that the total percentage of women whose BC CAN be tampered with who claim that theirs HAS been tampered with is more like 32%.
I repeat: bullSHIT. Men just aren’t that dumb/masochistic.
I’ve seen this in my life though: A 21 year old girl i worked with decided that her older (by about 20 yrs) partner was ready for a (second, first with her) kid. He disagreed. He regularly checked her pill pack at home and insisted on watching her take it. As far as far as i know his first child was the product of an “oops” so he was pretty adamant about it… So she’d put the pill in her mouth, keep it under her tongue, then stash it away and bin it when she got to work. And she was totally blazé about it. Told people openly. I was the ONLY person who told her I thought it was disgusting and told her to stop doing it. I think this type of thing is way, way, WAY more common than people think. But it makes sense – we’re told constantly about women’s bodily autonomy and reproductive rights (which is IMO fair enough) – but men’s reproductive rights are never mentioned. Ever. This bias was bound to creep through at some point – and now we have women thinking that whether they have a baby should be their choice and their choice alone… thoughts of what the man might want don’t even seem to come into the equation.
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There was a guy in Australia on the hook for child support for one conceived with a hooker.
WOW, that was either one stupid, careless, unqualified hooker (you would think a “professional” would know better than to let that happen); birth control “technology” failed, or the hooker had a case of “baby rabies.” Whatever the case, you’d think that in any country in which prostitution is legal that there would be some sort of law or insurance solution for a situation like this.
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If your goal is to avoid a child support order, that’s backwards. In most states, she can’t get child support from you because her children are legally presumed to be her husband’s no matter what paternity testing says. Therefore, the only women you should be having sex with are married women, because they cannot use these tricks to ensnare you.
As with any other form of law in the western world, I wouldn’t count on this one being permanent. Just let a massive number of married women start conceiving kids with men other than their husbands and let those women start screaming for laws to allow them to “double dip” (i.e., get child support while forcing their husbands to support their illegitimate offspring) and it WILL come to pass.
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Or men’s tennis either, for that matter.
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Nicky, I honestly do feel for you (my wife and I were never able to have a child of our own together due to my wife’s “plumbing” issues that resulted from my stepdaugher’s complicated birth years earlier). It sounds like one of those situations where your desires for family and your husband’s fundamentally differ. Did he express his views on this before you got married?
It’s heartening, though, to see that you won’t even consider an act of deception in order to have a second child. Hopefully the two of you can come to some form of understanding or agreement that is mutually satisfying.
Good luck to you both!
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Actually, picking a wealthy client and then getting pregnant by him could be an exit strategy, no?
A way to transition out of work, but still have an income.
I’d be worried about prostitutes, too.
Bring your own condoms.
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Rinsing it out with cold water is all you need to do. Sperm only are motile within a narrow temperature range. Or if there’s rubbing alcohol in the medicine cabinet soak it in that. (Sterilizes, you know).
Guess I run in the wrong crowd(s) and was lucky/prudent – like JB I’d never heard of anyone even thinking of doing this sort of thing until recently.
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http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/birth-control-recall-expanded-in-canada/article11182362/?service=mobile
Look. Here’s another story about birth control pills that contain placebos in place of hormones.
The story recalling the pills has the unintended effect of telling women which pills to order in bulk if they want an oops!
Did your partner just switch to Alysena-21?
I’d check if I were you.
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This is really fucked up. So because she decides it’s HER time, that means all the man’s hopes and dreams go down the toilet? I don’t even know what kind of mental gymnastics a woman has to pull in order to make this seem right in her eyes. I guess women are capable of anything though.
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I don’t think they really see men as having hopes and dreams, or even being real, full, emotional human beings. I think they see men as sources of sperm and money when it comes to “I want a baby and I’m going to have one”.
It would be VERY interesting to see how much the level of “accidental” pregnancies fell if men had the right to absolve themselves of any and all parental responsibility.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!°
Actually, hookers do not mind if you are poor or rich, as long as you pay the rate.
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One of the many reasons I’ve been a MGTOW monk for 3.5 years now. My last GF stopped taking the pill, and didn’t tell me until she was 2 weeks into her “I’ll get a baby and speed up the process of marriage” gambit. Once I found out, we were through and I vowed to permanently abstain. Best decision I ever made.
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I just think that we really need a pill for men. If we can hand out free birth control for women, then surely we can fund research and testing for a male pill.
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I think it’s a bit disingenuous to claim this is actually common. Anything looks common enough when you google it. That said, this proves that this definitely doesn’t “never happen” (excuse the double negative), which a lot of internet feminists seem to claim.
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The vast majority of women view men as nothing more than a sperm donor and an ATM.
If you don’t want a kid with a bitch heres what you do. First off, Bring your own condoms, once you reach the point of no return pull out and take the condom off and cum in her mouth. Get it all in there and make her suck you dry. Works every time.
Even when she gives you a blowjob, you have to make sure she doesn’t take it and rub it in her pussy. Sperm doesn’t die the moment it hits the air. I’ve heard of skanks chipmonking it, spitting it into their hand, and doing the same with it. You have to pinch her nose and make sure she swallows it, or make sure she spits it out.
Recall the woman who gave her doctor friend a BJ – he came in her mouth, she went to the bathroom, spit the cum into a turkey baster and pumped it right into her vag. She had his child and then sued for child support. That was their one and only sexual encounter. Imagine his surprise when the paternity test came back positive!
And . . . she won child support. Most expensive blowjob ever.
I saw on the side of a bus, plastered on the side of a bus an advertisement for child support.
That’s right. The federal government is spending our tax dollars (i.e. mostly taxes paid by men) to sponsor ads to encourage single mothers to milk their children’s biological (or non-biological!) fathers for child support.
Even if they had originally decided not to. So even women who originally did the right thing will be encouraged to turn to men as ATM machines.
The ad shows a little girl playing with words to the effect that she needs the financial support.
It’s bad enough that our child support system is a way of turning men into serfs, but now the state is so confident in this scam that its advertising for it.
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thats a pathetic or crazy manipulative thing to do. Tricking your partner to get you pregnant. Its really unfair too since men dont get a say on the unborn child.Getting pregnant by deciet should be a legit reason to not pay child support since you just been scammed.
the fake pills should be banned. Hell what about male birth control pills, a good way of getting a girl pregnant and make her question whose the father.
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It *may* well hold that women coerce men into parenthood more often than the other way around. The 2010 NISVS reads:
“Approximately 8.6% (or an estimated 10.3 million) of women in the United States reported ever having an intimate partner who tried to get them pregnant when they did not want to, or refused to use a condom, with 4.8% having had an intimate partner who tried to get them pregnant when they did not want to, and 6.7% having had an intimate partner who refused to wear a condom (data not shown).
Approximately 10.4% (or an estimated 11.7 million) of men in the United States reported ever having an intimate partner who tried to get pregnant when they did not want to or tried to stop them from using birth control, with 8.7% having had an intimate partner who tried to get pregnant when they did not want to or tried to stop them from using birth control and 3.8% having had an intimate partner who refused to wear a condom (data not shown).”
Click to access NISVS_Report2010-a.pdf
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This is just like anything else that feminists want to deny and I’ve seen it on a few of the forums I participate in. The feminists make the assertion that whatever they find uncomfortable NEVER happens, then someone points out a case where it does. The feminist grudgingly accepts that, okay, maybe in this ONE case, but that’s the only time in human history it’s ever happened. When more cases start to pour in, they insist that it’s very rare at best, and try to claim that regardless of the actual rates, it’s not worth worrying about, whether it’s this, the amount of men falsely accused of rape, or the number of men who are raising children not their own.
Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.
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Us post-menopausal nymphos just got a leg up. We’re trustworthy! Yeah!
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Judgy, I have disclosed in earlier post comments that I was a single Dad and thought that you may be interested in my take. I agree with almost everything in your article and will further consider the article after this post. I would take your analysis a stage further however.
My experience included that when I was dating a single mother when my son was under about 10 it amazed me that the women (about 4 of them) thought that their child(ren) took priority over my son. Tried to discuss with them but they just could not see it and often ended the “relationship”. Solipsism much :-). The priorities were thus her, her offspring, me then my son. Not the way I saw it so MGTOW since my son was about 10.
Throughout me bringing my son up during the eighties and nineties I encountered much verbal opposition from women. For everyone that was encouraging their were ten or more who were opposed. I considered this to be opposition of women to the idea that a man could raise a child absent women. How can you argue against shared parenting and the child support model of family break up if you recognise this. The worst example was a small fat women saying to me in a single parents group “You only wanted your son so you could fuck him.” Charmer.
My single biggest concern was that social services would get involved. I have no direct evidence of this but I was much of the opinion that I was further under the “eye” of social services than was the case with single mums. This was before the current round of paedohysteria sweeping the UK at the moment and I don’t know that I would be “allowed” to do what I did in these times.
Any enlightenment from your commenters would be greatly appreciated
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Well done mate.
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I wonder why there are ever more MGTOWs? A mystery.
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Men will also want to be aware that if they’re having sex with a number of women, that it’s going to strongly tend to be the craziest or sickest that sabotages birth control, meaning if you’re having sex with four women, the one you think would make the worst mother rates to most likely end up the mother of your child, if you end up becoming a father.
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Think about that one. And think about what that would mean to your child.
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I think I’ve figured out how they’re going to solve climate change.
The male pill!
When it comes listen for a giant slapping sound outside your window.
The sound of a billion female thighs slamming shut all at once.
The resulting frigidity will permanently reverse global warming.
The planet is saved!
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Nicky, thank you for respecting your husband. You are a rare gem. I suspect your “friends” were not joking.
I have a friend whose wife would like a 2nd child. They have one, and while he loves his son, like most guys, I think he would also have been OK to not have children. His wife has already run the gamut of persuasion and even threatening divorce to get her way (Yeah becoming a single mom seems a better choice to a woman just to get her way…..not that this move is a surprise.) I don’t dislike his wife, but her lack of logic – surprise again – is astounding. She doesn’t think “Hmmm, my husband may not have wanted any kids, but because he loved me he worked with me to give me one child. And perhaps a second child at my age could have some disability or difficulty which could negatively affect the family life. I should love and appreciate what I have.” Instead women sink to deceit and lies to get what they want, and if that doesn’t work next it’s divorce. Women thing men are disposable, and another husband will be easy to find. Thankfully, more and more single moms who selfishly divorced because they aren’t getting their way are finding that 2nd husbands/stepdads are in short supply; Men are wising up that single moms aren’t good for more than some fun sex.
I have another buddy who was fine with one. His wife wore him down and now he has two kiddos. He loves the kids, but without a doubt was fine with one. It was obvious the way his wife acted that she wasn’t going to negotiate. And now, years later, he has yet to get a vasectomy just in case she wants to sucker him into a third I suspect….but heck he hardly gets any sex anymore anyway because she’s “tired from the kids”. At least, I guess, they are his kids he’s losing out on sex rather than stepkids from another man.
A man who sneaks behind his wife or GFs back to get a vasectomy would be labeled a piece of sh** by so many women and manginas, but women seeking pregnancy by lies are held wrongly in high esteem.
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Judgybitch, I love your articles. I have been reading them for years as I am a recovering feminist who learned the meaning of life after quitting my job to stay home with my babies. Suddenly I realized that while days can be hard, it is not an unnatural and forced life.
Now, with that said, I must say that some of these comments are quite disturbing. Aren’t you worried that these obviously disturbed commenters are soiling your message? As cynical as I am, I wouldn’t doubt that some of these people are actually hardcore feminists trolling to make you look bad.
I would turn off comments or at least speak out against some of the more distasteful comments. Your message is so important and needs to be heard – don’t let anyone be able to discount it by pointing to your association (however weak) to these bitter men. I know your message through and through, and some of these jokers don’t get it AT ALL
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Vera thanks for this. I have not been moderating comments carefully and will go through and do a review. Thanks for the heads up
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Hmmm. I don’t see any “disturbing” comments in this more-than-a-year-old thread. I see one or two angry comments, but not all anger is bad.
More silencing of men…?
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By using hot tubs, saunas, or simply applying a heating pad, a man can make himself temporarily sterile. Combine that with a condom and you the odds are in your favor.
If a woman likes you enough to have sex with you chances are she likes you enough to trap you into a child.
The more difficult or emotionally erratic she is, the more likely she will try something like this. Be especially careful of someone “too good to be true.” That is the sign of a “people pleaser” which means it is only an act, and act 2 is right around the corner.
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Any man or boy stupid enough to stick his dick into a vagina and think he won’t be somebody’s daddy can just lump it.
First woman I had, I didn’t bother to ask until I finished ejaculating in her. She hadn’t mentioned BC until I/we finished up. She said she was on the Pill. I shrugged and said, “Oh.”
She said no guy had ever asked her about or mentioned BC. I said that no one should expect to have pleasure without consequences.
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It’s called insanity. Most women are born with in. But what’s even more insane is that society knows this is happening and does absolutely nothing to stop it or hold accountable the criminal (yes IT’S A CRIME!)that we know to be the woman almost exclusively.
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GOD IN HEAVEN! There’s no hope left. Something drastic needs to happen; there is just no way to stop all of the feminist evils in the world without somehow starting over from square one.
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Gentleman,
If you do have a vasectomy, of if the male pill ever becomes available, don’t tell her. When all of a sudden a ‘baby-is-born’ you will understand the deeply evil nature of the person who shares your bed. ANY woman who tricks a man in to being a father should lose that child for forced adoption, or give the duped man first right of refusal. This, of course, only if the real father is not located. Then he should be given an OPTION, not forced into 18 years of mommy-support. Obviously, he was tricked as well but the PUSSY-PASS wins ever fucking time doesn’t it?!
What are you going to do today to stop this from happening to your sons?
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If you are intellectually honest then you can’t be a feminist or remain a feminist for long.Besides what mystifies me is, why can’t the good things that this sick ideology purports to do for the welfare of women be achieved without subscribing to any form of “ism” ?
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