This was a really fun interview! Justin seems like a pretty amazing guy.
Tags: “spitting hot fire”, Bloomfield interview, epithet or epitaph, Justin Garcia, the Pressure Project
The one thing I disagreed with was at 35 minutes when Justin said each generations is worse than the last. I think what we are seeing is that the worst of the worst may be changing and sometimes getting worse then what we think of from previous generations, but I think it’s more likely that we are comparing today’s bad apples to typical or super good kids of older generations. Sort of like saying Jerry Springer isn’t Shakespeare… well no, but he isn’t trying to be, however Neil Simon is, and does a good job.
The reality is that all of the worst privations in our culture have diminished over time and crime reduced dramatically, and justice and tolerance are growing. Young people have tended towards being the drivers of these phenomena.
You mentioned that there is no Captain/First Officer model of marriage on television these days in the interview.
Check out “Bob’s Burgers”.
Well if we go that route in many respects Marge and Homer are still in that kind of relationship. On the other hand all of the dads on the Fox animation shows are kind of doofus.
On the other side of the equation I would say the highlight example of the man-hating man who perfectly models the misandry being discussed would be Alan Harper from “Two and a Half Men”, can anyone think of an example of a worse worm than him?
“Each generation is worse than the last”
People have been saying this for ten thousand years. What we forget is that when we look back at history, we only remember and keep track of the best of the best. We remember Shakespeare because his works were excellent. Time has, however, forgotten about the hundreds, perhaps thousands of playwrights and aspiring playwrights during Shakespearean times that we just absolutely awful, derivative claptrap. The Jerry Springers of Shakespearean times were simply forgotten, but make no mistake – they god damn sure existed.
Even more contemporary – think of 1968. This, my friends, was a time of musical greatness, am I right? Credence Clearwater Revival lit up the charts, alongside of the Beattles and Elvis and just a limitless list of simply fucking amazing artists. What happened to that? Where are the great artists of today?
Look at the top of the charts in ’68, and you’ll notice that the song that was on top of the charts for most of that year was Sugar, Sugar, by the Archies, which is the song that goes “Sugar! Awww honey, honey! You are my candy guuuurrrl!”
Yup. In 1968, that was the chart topper. Awful derivative, meaningless claptrap. Most of the songs on that chart were pure garbage. We brought the great songs of 1968 with us, but forgot about (rightly so) the rest of the flotsam that was made dring that same period.
History has a way of doing that – you only remember the great men, the great playwrights, the great songs, because those things that did not achieve greatness are forgotten.
The fact is, it has been proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that each generation’s IQ exceeds that of the previous generation by a not insignificant factor. We’re getting smarter every generation, not dumber. As fun as Mike Judge’s Idiocracy is, it is just so much fiction.
The “things are getting worse, this next generation is the ruin of us all” meme has been around so long, that I’d honestly thought that we’d left it behind years ago.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
Guess who said that? Guess. Seriously. Copy this quote into your Google search and hit search, and then tell me that the entire “these kids these days, amirite?” line is just idiotic at this point.
That is a very old quote indeed, and you are right, however the oldest known version of the sentiment we have so far discovered is twice as old as that one.
Didn’t expect to see that used a reference. Nailed it.
Seriously? Do share! I love learning new stuff!
I’m on my tablet, which makes it dificult to link to sources, however, it is the epithet on the tomb of a later king of the proto-Egyptian Gerza culture… “We live in a decaying age. Young people no longer respect their parents. They are rude and impatient. They frequently inhabit taverns and have no self control.” This is a translation found in a Buckminster Fuller book.
I don’t know how to edit a post once it’s in the system, so I will just have to post a correction to my last comment… I do know the difference between an epithet and an epitaph, I’d like to be able to blame auto correct but the truth is I wasn’t paying attention.
Jason, I can fix it for you but when you mistake epithet for epitaph I think you can consider yourself literate 😛
Thank you. I think.
Jason, my Brother, if after a 75 minute interview all you disagree with is my generational critique, I’ll take it! But seriously, the scope of the conversation necessary to tackle my perspective on the topic would’ve ruined Janet’s incredible flow of conversation! In the Bronx, we would say she was “spitting hot fire”! Lol.
To summarize, though, my critique is mostly of society’s inebriated acceptance of many of the causes of the aforementioned privations’ diminishing levels and its (society’s) diminishing ability to quell those in control of that very decline. As someone who proudly brandishes a personal motto of “Pressure to Power!”, I question the true value of tolerating a global move toward the production of “sophisticated sucklings” when the price is our self-reliance and raw ambition. The defended stability of the family unit, the value of a consequence-laden childhood, the embrace of those roles proven so successful for millennia across tribes…maaaaan, I can swim through a conversation about this for weeks! Lol!
Thanks for listening, though, and of course…Pressure to Power!
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