University of Michigan: Withholding Sex, Discounting Feelings are ‘Sexual Violence’
A good article on campus sexual violence insanity in which I am quoted – Ego? What ego? What are you talking about?
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September 30, 2014
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judgybitch 
I think that whoever wrote these new definitions of abuse failed to mention that only men can abuse and only women can be abused. That should clear some of the confusion.
In all seriousness, this does violate a legal principle. While I don’t know the technical name for it, it is simply “damned if you do and damned if you don’t”.
We have to find a way to educate young men and keep them away from campus.
This has gotten beyond insane.
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Wow. That wheel of abuse is downright Orwellian. I read through and found a number of things that past (female) partners have done to me. But that is impossible right?
College aged people are basically big children now-a-days, profoundly so.
I read an article about a group that encourages men to ‘explore their misogyny’ (no shit).
They found that young men were much more open to it. I actually find the indoctrination far more disturbing than any existing fucked-up policies.
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It’s kind of interesting, with holding sex and affection is certainly not violence, but it can be a form of psychological abuse, something women and wives might want to ponder a bit.
Naturally they’re always intending to target men with their charts of sexual violence, and never even imagine that women could possibly be sexually abusive themselves.
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Only men will be held to these absurd definitions, the Kafkaesque and misandrist PC university tribunals will never hold women accountable to even serious physical abuse of a male, this is becoming absolutely surreal. Just wondering if she gives you a blow job during sex does that constitute consent?
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If withholding sex is considered sexual violence then I think that would make most women guilty of being a sex offender at some point in their life. Am I right?
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“dues ex machinima” is what i think you’re looking for
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*deus
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The old Cartoon network show Johnny Bravo is now about a sexual abuse victim
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Feminist love to be abused and beaten. Why are they complaining?
I do not understand a word of this feminist shit.
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Just more draconian rules that they have absolutely NO intention of applying equally to both sexes.
I just love how ‘sex positive’ feminists make the Shakers look like Greenwich Village.
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“Sex withholding love and affection” (?????)
This is strange: feminists hate sex with love. They yawn and loath when the male partner shows affection or cherish.
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So right.
“Follas menos que un casado” (“You have less sex than a married man”)
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If she performs fellatio or not depends of the fella.
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I specify: if you are an actual rapist, ex convict, cocaine dealer, a ton of steroids in your system, a tattoo in your dick and you actually force her to give you a fellatio… then she will be delighted and will scream for more. So, not technically “consent”, but actual consent cuz she love it. So, no problem.
If you are a regular hubby and you ask your wifey politely to give you a fellatio, probably she will, but just to please you, due to “marital duties”. So it is officially “consent” but actually is not cuz she does not feel like. So, probably, after that she will call the cops and file “rape”.
I am a lawyer, by the way. So, you can trust me.
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When talking about behaviors like withholding sex and affection, I’d see this as more pertinent when discussing committed, monogamous relationships than when discussing any and all dating relationships. After all, it’s not abusive for a woman or man to decide that they don’t want to jump right into physical intimacy with someone they’re just getting to know.
For couples in serious relationships, though, the issue of one person withholding sex or affection CAN be a sign of abuse or at least of an unhealthy relationship. And I think there are at least as many women as men — if not more — who will sometimes use sex as a sort of bargaining tool.
I definitely don’t see this behavior as prosecution-worthy — but I would see it as a red flag if my husband were treating me like that, and it would be equally a red flag if I were treating him like that. We would need to talk about it because, unless a person wants their partner seeking to get their needs met elsewhere, one needs to find a way to meet those needs within the relationship.
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The standards will only be held for men, the authors of these edicts know this as a practical matter. When the woman withholds sex and the man gets his needs met elsewhere he will be engaging in what is now defined as sexual violence for having sex with other people.
Using logic and reason to communicate principles of justice and fairness will now be viewed as forms of verbally abusive behavior.
It seems as if each month the male sanctioned feminist doublespeak dogma becomes more entrenched. Wake me when this nightmare is over.
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Why do these busy-bodies feel compelled to get involved in personal relationships in the first place?
It’s almost as if they assume that women are incapable of creating and nurturing a healthy relationship without campus government intervention.
It’s almost as if they are infantilizing women, and treating them like children.
And it seems like a healthy cohort of women are actually agreeing with this and all for it…
There was a time when some infantilizing, busy-bodied “government interfering in the bedroom” action like this would have been shouted down by feminists and progresives, alike, yet here we are, infantilizing women amidst thunderous applause.
Women, I don’t think feminism stands for what you think it stands for.
Unless you think it stands for treating you like a moron. Then maybe.
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I love how withholding approval is abuse.
“Honey, I ironed your socks for you.”
“Huh. Okay.”
“He isn’t showing me approval! Abuser!!!”
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But I thought no one is owed sex?
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Progressives became puritans long time ago.
Not me. I still a libertine progressive,
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You don’t owe anyone sex if you’re not in a monogamous relationship.
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Well, I think there are a fairly high number of both young men and young women who don’t initially see the signs that the person they’re dating is abusive — basically, they’re the same as the signs that the person is insecure and controlling. Because I think what most abusers really are, are people who are scared of being unloved and alone, who think they need total control over another person, and need that person to need them, in order to avoid being left alone.
So they tend to be very jealous of anyone else their significant other might be close to — and lots of young people see that jealousy as a sign of love.
I think it can be a good idea for both young men and young women to learn more about this stuff — not to turn every unhealthy situation into a police matter, but just to help them be more aware if a relationship seems headed in an unhealthy direction.
But I agree that it’s insulting to both women and men to assume that one gender’s always the abused and one is always the abuser.
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“CAN be a sign of abuse or at least of an unhealthy relationship”
Or a sign that they just don’t feel like it.
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Pretty cool article. Also, looking forward to next episode of JB-TV.
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Perhaps all of this shit has one primary focus: Keep men away from campus?
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There is a difference between educating youngsters about abusive and unhealthy relationships, and this…
A big one.
I plan to teach my daughter about signs of abusiveness, and she will go into her first relationship armed with the knowledge necessary to defend herself from such, if needed.
But the government, or the college she’s going to need to but the fuck out. It is WAAAY beyond their concern.
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(MODERATOR PLEASE POST THIS ONE; delete the other one like this. Thank you! )
What’s happening in institutions of higher learning today is just the natural extension of what’s been occurring in the workplace for many years now. Due process is being tossed out the window only to be replaced with a much more convenient & useful illusion.
And the only thing we’ve done is trade one injustice for another.
A glaring problem with what US colleges are now implementing has to do with the example they’re setting for students.
The message they’re imparting says: It’s ok to wrong another person if it’s in your corporate interests to do so; it’s ok to be unfair, to lie, to be partial, and to deny due process if it’s in your corporate interests to do so.
It’s a dangerous message. But this is what you get when an idea is guided by money & liability – not care, protection, justice or truth.
This whole “Rape culture” and “Stalking/Harassment/sexual harassment” hysteria has got to STOP. Men are being driven to the point of suicide and this cannot be allowed to continue.
No society that wants to call itself civilized, humane, ethical and just, can allow this foolish, childish madness to continue.
It needs to stop!
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This is what comes of letting weaklings and cowards make the rules. Human history is peopled by those who had the strength to survive and thrive through adversity. Now, people have been alleviated of the need to strive, to suffer, to push on…and as a result, strength has been outlawed; being strong is made a crime, because the strong are vastly outnumbered by the weak, and in egalitarian societies its the mob’s word that rules. Withholding approval as abuse is just another in a long, absurd line of faux-threats to the ‘individual’, like ‘bullying’.
If I hadn’t been bullied as a child, I’d have never grown a pair and learned to defend myself. If I had been greeted with approval every step of the way, I would never have questioned myself.
And I guess that’s the point.
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At least the puritans had faith in something besides their own egos
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If this government exists to control the populace, it is exactly their concern. It’s not right, and its not liberty, but it is a means to control. All of these ridiculous laws are links in the chain that will be used to hold a once-free people to the ground.
Reminds me of Ben Franklin’s quote, something like: “Any society that gives up a little liberty top gain a little security deserves neither and loses both”.
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GOvernment does not exist to “control” the populace.
In fact, the reality, in a good system of government, is quite the opposite.
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Yes, in a good system, everyone’s free to do whatever they want as long as they’re not harming anyone or infringing on anyone else’s right to do what they want.
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FYI, a recent U of Oregon survey, the $20,000 tab for which was picked up by taxpayers, listed in the survey material “attempted, unwanted kissing” as a “Rape Item,” whatever the hell that is; but you know that leaning in for a peck with your sweetie that turned out to be unwelcome is going to somehow wind up under the sexual assault or more probably the rape percentage. Fuck you, U. of O.!
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smarty pants
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