Let’s talk about Bill Cosby

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Let me just state right up front that I am not claiming innocence for Bill Cosby. Did he drug and rape a bunch of women? I don’t know and neither does anybody else except for Bill himself. What I want to do today is talk about a few facts that should give everybody pause when it comes to judging him.

 

According to celebritynetworth.com Bill Cosby is worth $400 million, and yes it’s pertinent. That’s four hundred million incentives, right there.

 

Women who claim they were raped by Cosby also openly admit they were whoring for fame, trying to ride the man’s coattails into a star-studded future. Does that give Cosby the right to rape them? Of course not, but it sure as hell casts a suspicious light on the innocent maiden’s motives to make their claims. Women who failed to hitch their little wagons to Cosby’s star have been trying to nail him with rape charges for a long time. Nothing has stuck. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, but for as long as Bill has been rich and famous, women have been trying to take him down with rape accusations and not a single one has irrefutable evidence, so either Bill is really, really good at the rape game, or it never happened.

 

Both are possible.

 

The current witchhunt in the media is a stark reminder that no matter how rich, how powerful, how well connected, how critically acclaimed a man might be, even an accusation of rape can tear his life apart and destroy him. Proof? What proof? The word of a woman can destroy a man’s life with no evidence of any kind required. Rape shield laws should apply to the accused, not the accuser. The accuser will go on to garner sympathy, appropriate pharmaceuticals and a speaking engagement where she can discuss her terrible trauma and the accused will be left with a shattered life even if all the allegations are proven to be outright lies.

 

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And this is doubly true when the man accused is also guilty of the crime of being black. Nothing packs quite the hysteria inducing punch of a black man raping white ladies. There was a time when the lynchings were real. Now we just lynch in the media and feminists bloggers gloat over their power to shame a man who has not been found guilty of a single charge. Powerful white ladies in the media attempting to lynch a black man on the word of other white ladies? Gee, that’s just so shocking.

 

Raven Symone and Whoopi Goldberg have a little more skepticism, and I will agree with Whoopi that “until you know it’s true, it’s an allegation”.

 

What the Bill Cosby allegations teach us is that “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” is a pipedream for men accused of rape. The media tries and condemns the accused without a shred of evidence to back up the charges. The word of a woman is enough to destroy a man’s career, reputation, an entire lifetime of achievements. Hey patriarchy, are you sure you thought this one through?

 

Here is what needs to change: since allegations of sexual assault and rape carry such devastating penalties for the men accused of those crimes, it should be a crime to name a man period. Victims should file criminal charges and the accused should be granted anonymity until convicted.  We need court ordered and enforced anonymity for men accused of rape. For women accused of rape, too. Without a conviction, without evidence, without proof, no one gets to call anyone else a rapist.

 

The feminist media has made it absolutely clear they will override any considerations of due process or justice when it comes to slandering and libelling men accused of rape. They will abuse the power they have and that is unacceptable. If these individuals refuse to show restraint and chose their words carefully?

 

I say gag the bitches.

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They’ve lynched enough men in this country. Enough is enough.

 

Lots of love,

 

JB

 

 

 

 

 

 

55 Responses to “Let’s talk about Bill Cosby”

  1. Spaniard November 21, 2014 at 18:03 #

    Cosby is not guilty at all of rape. That bunch of gold/fame diggers deserve going to jail for perjury.

    And I am very greatful to him for playing the perfect beta provider dumb dad on TV. I remember his show in the 80s and the stereotype revolted me so much, that I have never ever wanted to be nothing close to that.
    I chose the “john” way of life, which is pathetic I admit, but is less pathetic by far to that.
    I am safe thanks to Cosby show and the “Tool man”, and other American TV shows. Oh, yes! I remember Michael Landon in “Little house in the prairie”, and “8 is enough”… Oh my God!!!! Yek, yek! 😦

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  2. FuzzieWuzzie November 21, 2014 at 18:44 #

    While there are mechanisms in place to vigorously prosecute, what is needed is vigorous prosecution of those making false accusations. As it stands, public confidence in justice is being eroded. That is not good.

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  3. LostSailor November 21, 2014 at 19:08 #

    This is the whole purpose of the attempt to shift the burden of proof from plaintiffs to defendants in cases of sexual assault. Feminists don’t want to have to bring any actual evidence into the picture, a woman who makes an accusation of rape or sexual assault (feminists use the terms interchangeably since they have no regard for truth) should just “be believed” and the accused drummed out of his ability to live, work, or exist in society.

    A student at Brown recently wrote in their student newspaper an article questioning whether “due process” should even apply to cases of rape or sexual assault. It’s must the tip of the iceberg.

    Cosby has long been a liberal icon; if the feminists can take him down, they’re just whetting their machetes….

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  4. yoursexymaster November 21, 2014 at 19:40 #

    Bill Cosby’s Networth is $350,000,000 well thats what his sitcoms alone have gotten him, if I include real estate investments he is worth $400,000,000. If we add other investments he maybe worth 500 million. Lets take a look at Bill Cosby history, 7 Grammys. He is second only to Tyler Perry in cash. This man is probably one of the richest, and most talented black men in history! In a time of rape hysteria, coupled with frivolous law suits, and a man worth over a quarter of a billion dollars thats damn good reason to cry rape. Not to mention if you’re a white woman who has absolutely no talent, and a personality as appealing as rubbing sand paper on your genitalia. This is a perfect way to get back in the lime light and some money. Who am I referring to well I am referring too? Janice Dickinson who has the worst rape accusation against Bill Cosby ever formulated. She even wrote in her autobiography book that she wanted to have sex with Bill Cosby back in the day. Thing is he turned her down, as he had standards about not cheating on his wife with some random woman. Now she is saying her raped her that night! Really FUCKING, really Janice he raped you the same night he turned you down for sex?

    Now Bill has been accused of Rape 17 times, all claims made after his career had brought him in hundreds of millions of dollars! All claims made well after the Statutes of Limitations passed. If you are a victim of rape, I will say it again go to the police at once! That way I and everyone will know you were raped and that you are not looking for settlement money. Hell the thing that make me believe Micheal Jackson didn’t molest that first kid was the boy took a nice check to shut up and go away. It is just so obviously bogus of a claim when you want money from your rapist/abuser instead of actual justice! Rape is fucking terrible and to claim that you got raped in hopes of getting a fat settlement check is just as fucking terrible.

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  5. javaloco November 21, 2014 at 19:41 #

    I have come to the opinion that court of public opinion must be treated the same as law: right to representation. Ghomeshis reps should not have been allowed to drop him.

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  6. Raenemaker November 21, 2014 at 19:45 #

    Awwww man…you’re going down the rabbit hole.

    Look, unlike the chick that accused Tyson years ago, or most other celeb whores, these women were talking about it for decades and ignored. They’re in their 60s now, the statute of limitations has run out, most of them are waaay past the age of expiration on any sort of Hollywood career that Cosby could eek out from them (“coming to the stage is a former model, now 180 lb. housewife who was allegedly raped by Cliff Huxtable!”). What’s the motive? Why would a dozen+ female senior citizens conspire to tell similar stories about a cultural icon? And why wouldn’t he–especially at this age when all he has is his name and money–fight back and sue for slander, if untrue?

    Other points are valid about sealing the record, but the statute of limitations is over for these charges, there’s no “record,” it’s just public opinion. And if they’re defaming him in public, then he should rip them a new one…unless….?

    Love your articles normally, but this one is off the grid. GLWT.

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  7. judgybitch November 21, 2014 at 19:46 #

    Gee you think a little hush money might be welcome?

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  8. SWard November 21, 2014 at 20:52 #

    Who did they ‘come out’ to? If they’ve been crying this for years then where are the police reports. If you didn’t say anything when it did happen, then why not include the police in any of the other times you came out after that? Now there’s nothing anyone can do about it, but we’re supposed to believe that these women are doing it just because it’s the right thing to do? It’s a hard pill to swallow…and those that took money, housing, career help, and came back to spend time with him in non work related situations after he ‘raped’ them just seems like craziness.

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  9. zodak November 21, 2014 at 20:57 #

    what’s annoying is white knights writing things like this:
    “Despite a lack of forensic evidence, it’s safe to say David Alm is a serial rapist who drugged, fondled, and even sodomized at least 15 women.”
    ooops, i replaced bill cosby with the name of the author. i’m sure he won’t mind.
    http://www.askmen.com/recess/opinions/bill-cosby-s-final-lesson.html

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  10. Goober November 21, 2014 at 21:22 #

    Cosby is not guilty at all of rape.

    How do you know this?

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  11. FuzzieWuzzie November 21, 2014 at 21:34 #

    I would think that Bill Cosby has the best advice obtainable. While there are legal aspects to this, the maintenence of his public persona may be overriding.
    I have to wonder, could all this fit within the legal definition of extortion at the federal or state level?

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  12. Goober November 21, 2014 at 22:08 #

    I have a quick and easy fix for this, because I think what these women are doing is chickenshit. That fix already exists – laws against slander. Even if they WERE raped, what they are doing is the basest chickenshit that you can possibly imagine.

    Why?

    Because they waited until the burden of proof wasn’t on them anymore. They waited until the only way that Cosby can defend himself is by proving a negative, which we all know is impossible. He can’t prove that he DIDN’T rape them. There is no foreseeable way that he could possibly do so. And these chickenshits KNOW IT.

    And in a court of law, he wouldn’t have to prove a negative, and these women know that, too. If they’d pressed charges, they would have had to prove that he DID rape them, which I’m guessing they couldn’t do for various reasons (some because it wasn’t actually rape, some because of blurred lines, some because they really were scared, etc). So they waited until he couldn’t defend himself, and then came forward. Whether he did it or not, this is chickenshit.

    In the opinion of the law, accusing someone of having committed a crime when you have no proof that the crime happened is the very definition of slander. Cosby should be legally within his right to sue these women into penury if he so chooses. And he should win every case, unless one of these women is able to come up with evidence proving her allegations.

    You don’t get to make accusations without evidence in this country. That’s what slander laws are for.

    If these women really were raped, then I have sympathy for what happened to them. Truly, I do. But the fact that they haven’t gotten justice is THEIR FAULT, not anyone else’s, and seeking justice through a public lynch mob is not the way our system works. Fuck that. They had an opportunity to punish Cosby for what he did, and chose not to, and that choice was chickenshit.

    The fact is that the window for doing anything about these alleged rapes has passed, and what’s more, every single one of these women made the conscious, un-coerced decision to let it pass. Once you do that, you give up all claim. From now on, you get to shut the fuck up, or you get sued. YOU made that choice.

    Cosby had nothing to do with keeping them from reporting the rapes. If someone violated my body against my will (and managed to live through the process) they’d have cops on their doorstep before they even got their pants zipped back up. Any other action is cowardly and chickenshit.

    Allowing this sort of behavior leaves open the door for anyone to accuse anyone else of anything in order to ruin him. I could accuse my asshole neighbor of paedophilia 20 years ago when I was only 14 years old, and destroy him, anytime I want. Slander laws exist so that he can come after me to sue and make himself whole again, and also to encourage me not to do that in the first place.

    You simply can not accuse people of crimes when you don’t have proof. Even if you KNOW they committed them. That’s not the way it works. If you don’t have proof, you STFU. If I were Cosby’s lawyer, I’d be advising him to file separate lawsuits against every one of these women.

    If I were these women, I’d be very worried that my chickenshit attempt at seeking justice for a decades old wrong would lead to being raped once again, only this time in the civil courts system.

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  13. leaverus November 21, 2014 at 22:08 #

    Just like emma sulkowicz – not a shred of evidence against her alleged rapist, with whom she willingly went to bed.

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  14. Jim November 21, 2014 at 22:33 #

    “Now Bill has been accused of Rape 17 times, all claims made after his career had brought him in hundreds of millions of dollars!”

    This is why I KNOW it’s false. I mean please! EVERY single one of these bitches just so happen to wait all this time? Spare me. They’re vindictive and cowardly little cunts these western women are. (yes I know. NAWALT. blah blah. I get okay?).

    Welcome to the new Jim Crow people. Not just for blacks anymore. This time it’s ALL men period.

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  15. Jim November 21, 2014 at 22:34 #

    You’re an idiot.

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  16. Mark November 21, 2014 at 23:32 #

    Frankly, woman who claims to have been raped but refuses to file a police report has no on to blame but herself for the man ‘getting away with it.’ In the case of any crime, if you refuse to report it, then no one has any reason to accept that it happened, or feel sorry, or hold the accused accountable. That’s my position. By refusing to go to the law, these women forfeited the right to accuse Cosby outside the law. Even if he did rape them, and if he did, then worse, they share some of the blame for his subsequent actions by refusing to report it.

    I would go so far as to say, with extremely rare exceptions, if a woman says she is raped but never went to the police, it means one of two things: she is either lying, or she herself doesn’t/didn’t take rape seriously or must have been very irresponsible to not report a violent criminal to the police.

    This is something that feminists get ass-backwards; it’s an uncomfortable truth, but a truth nonetheless: when rapists get away with rape, more often than not, it isn’t society, the patriarchy, or the police that let them get away with it; if anyone is to blame, it was the victim. Victims failing to cooperate with police or waiting too long to report is probably the single biggest cause of failure to convict actual rapists. If feminists gave up all their demonization of men and other rape-related bullshit and spent just half the time emphatically telling women (all victims of violent crime in fact) to call the police as soon as it happens, not the next day, or week, or year, but immediately, right away, then much of the issue would be resolved quite easily.

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  17. Mark November 21, 2014 at 23:38 #

    Unfortunately I think the public is largely to blame for the problem. When it comes to sex crimes (especially against women and children), most people seem to often lose both their rationality and their principles too. Try defending the civil rights of someone accused of rape or child molestation at a cocktail party. One might be surprised at the proportion of the general public that would willingly vote to get rid of trials (as well as bring back medieval forms of torture as punishment) for people accused of rape. For so many people, not just feminists or prosecutors or politicians, when it comes to sex-related crimes, emotion trumps logic and ethics.

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  18. Goober November 22, 2014 at 00:18 #

    If they are asking for money on the DL to make the claims go away, then yes.

    But there is no evidence that they’ve done so. So no. There’s no extortion going on.

    Now slander? That’s another matter. Accusing a person of a heinous crime for which you’ve got no evidence?

    Well, by golly, that’s just the exact fit definition of slander, now isn’t it?

    This, I fear, will be the worst choice these women ever made. All i can do is hope that they are lying, because if they are telling the truth, it’s really going to suck to see the entire Cosby legal team descend on them all here in the next couple weeks.

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  19. Goober November 22, 2014 at 00:31 #

    And why wouldn’t he–especially at this age when all he has is his name and money–fight back and sue for slander, if untrue?

    That one is easy. Filing a lawsuit makes the entire mess public knowledge. The court of public opinion is a sonofabitch. So is a wife that finds out you’ve been cheating on her. So in past cases, like the paternity claim it made sense for him to settle on the DL.

    Tell me truly, if you had one of the Duke Lacrosse players show up at your front desk asking for a job, would you hire him? Be honest. If you would, how many wouldn’t? How much more difficult is their life going to be now because of that allegation, even though it’s proven to be untrue?

    Kobe Bryant? What’s the first thing you think about when you hear his name? I know what it is when i hear his name – did he really rape that chick? Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t, but it will forever be the first thing that many think of when they think of Kobe.

    If you can’t think of any reason at all why a married man, in this day and age, in this political climate, would gladly and quietly pay off an accuser to keep her quiet (especially when he really did have adulterous sex with her), then you need to think harder.

    My honest opinion is now that the cat is out of the bag, there is nothing stopping him from investing some of his $400,000,000 fortune into turning these women into paupers (and social pariahs). If anything, it will actually help his public image, because it will make him look like a righteously outraged, unjustly accused victim. It’s what I’d do in his position.

    Which makes me hope, oh so much, that they actually are lying. Because if they are telling the truth, we’re about the get front row tickets to a show where a rapist sues his victims into penury, and I just can’t handle the injustice of that.

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  20. cesarbrie November 22, 2014 at 01:52 #

    Let’s not forget the presumption of innocence is a Human Right consecrated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other Human Rights declaration. It’s a right none can be deprived of without being considered non-human. Also, those denying this right to anybody must be held accountable of Human Rights violations.

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  21. Emma the Emo November 22, 2014 at 01:54 #

    I’d rather both were non-anonymous. Seems wrong to gag the media (which should be able to report about public things that are happening), and a potential victim from either side (imagine someone raped or accused you, but you can’t talk about it). Plus if the accused is not rich and famous, forbidding people to speak about what happened to him might be very bad – he’ll just disappear and no one is allowed to know he’s been arrested. Seems like making it easy for the feminists.
    Media can be bad, but it can also be good. In my time of trouble it was pretty good. Not good to only support the freedom of the media when it suits you, and thus I can’t do that.

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  22. Conservative Girl November 22, 2014 at 02:18 #

    I agree. Sue the crap out of them if they are lying. His reputation is worth fighting for.

    Personally, I think where there’s smoke, there’s fire. There’s likely enough blame to go around on both sides of the equation.

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  23. pio420 November 22, 2014 at 04:23 #

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  24. caprizchka November 22, 2014 at 05:20 #

    I’ve got a different slant because I’m not entirely objective. I’ve been raped multiple times. Two were not as “bad” as the others–I was drugged. This was not the worst possible thing to even happen to me. Sure, It was icky. Sure. I felt sick afterwards, but 30 years later, well, I don’t even think about it. However, if the rapist was a celebrity? That’s a different story. Revenge by way of exposure would be sweet. Whereas of course it is possible that theses women are coming forward because they want money–from someone, Cosby, the media, their story, etc.–I say it’s all about revenge.

    True or not however this modus operandi is not the most traumatic way to be raped. It just isn’t. Especially if it isn’t even remembered. Violence or anal rape is much worse. This is a case of character assassination–justified or no–but don’t for a moment believe that these women’s lives were so irrevocably altered as a result that they deserve reparations. To be raped while drugged is a different category of rape. Disease and pregnancy are the major issues here and they appear to be absent from the narrative unless I haven’t been paying attention.This story wouldn’t even be a story if celebrity wasn’t involved.

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  25. Conservative Girl November 22, 2014 at 05:46 #

    Yes. It *is* slander. And they’ve also committed libel against him, and defamation of character. Which is exactly why I don’t understand why he’s not all over them like white on rice.

    If I were in his shoes and someone were doing that to me, my family, and my reputation? Not to mention what they’ve done to bring him GREAT financial harm. It would be game on and I wouldn’t stop until I nailed them all to the wall and cleared my name.

    Yes, suing them would bring more attention and stress to the situation. But, if you are innocent, fight them. It’s his lack of response which bothers me and raises questions.

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  26. That_Susan November 22, 2014 at 15:56 #

    I totally agree with this: “Here is what needs to change: since allegations of sexual assault and rape carry such devastating penalties for the men accused of those crimes, it should be a crime to name a man period. Victims should file criminal charges and the accused should be granted anonymity until convicted. We need court ordered and enforced anonymity for men accused of rape. For women accused of rape, too. Without a conviction, without evidence, without proof, no one gets to call anyone else a rapist” —

    So long as by “naming,” you’re talking about formally naming someone in the media — and “media” would include a blog on the Internet — and not whatever they talked about in their private lives. And they should still be able to blog about their experience of being drugged and raped by a prominent person — but for anyone to be able to name that person publicly, there should have to be a conviction first.

    I’ll admit that I don’t want to believe such an awful thing about Cosby, because I like him so much. Personally, when I hear about stuff like this that I have no way of EVER knowing the truth about, I try to just let it go. That’s what I’d hope people would do for me.

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  27. Spaniard November 22, 2014 at 19:06 #

    Innocent until prove guilty.

    Besides… very obvious it is a feminazi ambush.

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  28. Spaniard November 22, 2014 at 19:09 #

    Besides… people like Cosby don´t need to rape women. They have all the pussy they want.

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  29. yoursexymaster November 22, 2014 at 21:36 #

    He has principles our society clearly lacks as I am sure you an realize that we are fucking stuck with the media treating him as guilty. Hell maybe its a liberal plot at large to destroy the family unit.

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  30. matt November 22, 2014 at 23:04 #

    Great comment mark. I agree wholeheartedly. When it comes to sex crime accusations many people would lynch the man without a trial if they could. People like brian banks or the duke lacrosse players would be lynched or castrated before any actual evidence of the contrary presented itself. People hate sexual predators to the point of getting due process rights (many people agree with feminists on this one unfortunately.

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  31. matt November 22, 2014 at 23:29 #

    “Getting rid” of due process rights. Pardon.

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  32. Jeffrey Deutsch November 23, 2014 at 00:45 #

    “In the opinion of the law, accusing someone of having committed a crime when you have no proof that the crime happened is the very definition of slander.”

    You may mean the law of the United Kingdom and maybe one or more other countries. In the opinion of the law of the United States, for an action for slander it’s the plaintiff’s job to prove the statements were false.

    Even in the criminal courts, your own sworn word can be enough proof, even against the defendant’s. Especially for something like rape, where your own word sometimes may be all you have.

    This does not mean the complainant’s word always or even usually wins; it means the court has the difficult job of weighing and balancing respective credibilities.

    Requiring a witness, physical proof or something else besides testimony to convict for rape…effectively legalizes it.

    As for Bill Cosby’s money, I can tell a story about how unscrupulous people decided to try to extort a bit of it via false accusations.

    (For that matter, this doesn’t just happen to the rich or famous. Many, many years ago, my grandfather picked up a female hitchhiker. She then revealed she was a prostitute, and gave him the choice of…engaging her services or being the target of a false rape accusation. He pulled over and advised her to get out while she could still walk.)

    I can also tell a story about how Bill Cosby’s money can buy very expensive lawyers, investigators and other ways — legal, dodgy or flat-out illegal — to make the women’s lives miserable. And as Karen Straughan recently pointed out in her talk at Kennesaw State University, even when many individuals know there’s a problem, until each one knows that he or she is not alone, all of them are likely to keep their mouths shut. And once they start gathering, they’re likely to do so very quickly.

    Yes, false accusers can encourage one another and pile on. So can true victims.

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  33. Christoph Dollis (@ChristophDollis) November 23, 2014 at 03:14 #

    I don’t know if he’s innocent or not.

    I do know these women didn’t say anything to protect other women or the children Cosby worked with for decades.

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  34. Mark November 23, 2014 at 06:59 #

    Which basically makes them accessories to rape after the fact.

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  35. Christoph Dollis (@ChristophDollis) November 23, 2014 at 11:48 #

    Not quite, but it certainly doesn’t make them brave heroines.

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  36. Jack Strawb November 23, 2014 at 12:49 #

    ” And if they’re defaming him in public, then he should rip them a new one…unless….?”

    Your post was largely incoherent, but this is straightforward. Other than issuing a denial, Cosby has no recourse.

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  37. Jack Strawb November 23, 2014 at 12:53 #

    It shouldn’t. For starters,

    “If Cosby sued, it would open him up to accusers’ counterclaims against him. He’d be subjected to depositions and required to give sworn testimony about the allegations in the counterclaimants’ efforts to discredit his lawsuit. Cosby’s actions would become an open book. Evidence could be subpoenaed, and witnesses such as police officers, agents, hotel staff and others could be required to testify. The allegations would be disputed in open court for all to see. Cosby would get his day in court—and so would his accusers.”

    http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/11/why_cosby_won_t_sue_his_accusers.html

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  38. Mark November 23, 2014 at 19:45 #

    Legally of course, a victim isn’t required to report the crime. But morally, if they have the opportunity (and every reason) to report it, knowing that if they don’t the perpetrator may victimize others, and they choose not to? Then I would say that when precisely that happens, that victim has little right to play indignant, and rather should be ashamed and it would be more appropriate to apologize to the later victims for effectively letting the perp continue to do go free. It shows considerable cowardice or apathy, not sure which is worse.

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  39. That_Susan November 24, 2014 at 03:45 #

    I’m sorry you didn’t feel like you could report him to the people over him. As far as your male coworkers’ reaction of being shocked but not really urging you to do anything about it — that could be a reflection of the different approach that many men have. Chances are, if a female supervisor had done the same thing to them, and it had been unwelcome, they would have just done like you did and gotten out of there, and wouldn’t have reported it either, because they wouldn’t want to come across like they needed anyone else’s help to handle an aggressive woman.

    But I think the people running the company would actually want to know if a manager’s acting so unprofessionally. So reporting that behavior isn’t saying, “I’m so helpless, I need the big guns to fight my battles for me.” No one should HAVE to fight off the people who’ve been appointed to mentor them and motivate everyone to work together to improve their company’s products and/or services. Getting rid of the jerks not only helps you and all your colleagues — it also benefits your company by freeing up everyone’s energy to do the job at hand.

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  40. Master Beta November 24, 2014 at 10:04 #

    One worries that if one of the women coming forward was actually raped, and the others just regret sleeping with him, then it will be that much harder for that one women to get justice.

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  41. Goober November 24, 2014 at 17:39 #

    Personally, I think where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

    Oh, I do, too, but given our current very strange definition of rape, including “I didn’t really want to, but I went along with it because reasons, but he should have known that I didn’t want to, even though i willingly went along with it, because more reasons” one wonders how real these old claims truly are.

    Are these regrets? 20 year old regrets coupled with a desire for 15 minutes of fame?

    Or is Cosby really a pile of shit, who really raped these women and got away with it?

    That’s why I’m so pissed off about this. Think about the damage these “blurred lines” (to use an unfortunate turn of phrase) are doing to other rape victims. Everyone wonders if they are real. No proof, no way to prove or disprove, and you’re left with grey goop.

    These women are cowards, the lot of them, and the ability of women to seek redress for sexual assault is suffing because of it. f

    IF YOU ARE RAPED, GO TO THE POLICE. Don’t wait 20 years and then climb on a bandwagon of grey goop.

    How effing hard is that?

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  42. Goober November 24, 2014 at 17:43 #

    Exactly my point. These cowards have made it incrementally harder for other rape victims to seek redress.

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  43. LostSailor November 24, 2014 at 22:15 #

    Because he’s never been convicted of it in a court of law. QED. The most you can say is that he’s been informally accused of rape in a way in which he can never clear his name.

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  44. LostSailor November 24, 2014 at 22:21 #

    Yes, suing them would bring more attention and stress to the situation. But, if you are innocent, fight them. It’s his lack of response which bothers me and raises questions.

    Suing would have no benefit for Cosby except to keep the story alive. Slander and libel are very difficult to prove just as “rape” years after the fact is very difficult to prove.

    It’s precisely the “lack of response” the feminists were counting on to “bother” people. That’s the whole point: make accusations that cannot be countered in an environment where fighting back only makes the situation worse.

    And if they can bring someone like Cosby down, it will work on anyone. That should be the real issue bothering you…

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  45. u8apepper November 29, 2014 at 01:27 #

    This has happened

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  46. Kristin December 6, 2014 at 00:29 #

    Western has nothing to do with bloodlines, and Unfortunately women and men everywhere lie.

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  47. Jack Strawb December 6, 2014 at 03:04 #

    Our slander and libel laws, too, all but prohibit the victim of slander and libel from collecting in cases of ‘he said-she said.’

    The person suing has to prove malice, which is almost impossible here.

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  48. nuestraherenciaco December 7, 2014 at 11:58 #

    I am wondering about this “innocent until proven guilty” thing I keep hearing. You see, you can only be “proven guilty” when you step into court. When you have LOTS of money, like that 400 million you mentioned, odds are, you will NEVER step foot in a court. You will instead of going to court, SETTLE with the victims, you know, like he did in 2005…or like he’s doing now by counter-suing the woman who now has filed a case against him. And well, although that “innocent until proven guilty” may very well work for many, Bill will NEVER step into a court of law. What’s even MORE funny is that our society has the view as a whole that people “with money get away with murder and buy judges and juries and lawyers” and never truly pay for their crimes…which makes me wonder why Bill decided to settle his case in 2005 instead of “stepping into court”.

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  49. Jeff December 29, 2014 at 02:09 #

    I agree, what if he is innocent? None of the women have any money to speak of, think they all might be trying to get rich – it’s a thought! When just accusing a man ruins his life, something is terribly wrong with the system. Personally, I believe Mr. Cosby is innocent and they are all grabbing for money.

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  50. Jim December 31, 2014 at 17:45 #

    It’s great to hear things from a woman’s perspective. As a Man of values, let me say, ultimately, from the perspective of sharing the greatness and most noble attributes of what I consider a true man’s heart to be. False accusations not only harm the Man himself, but all the good and most of the love and goodness he could have shared with the world, which has been tarnished. Personally, there is nothing worse that can be done to such a Man.

    Maybe I am one of the few, who has this kind of love that burns in his heart daily for others and this world, and desires a better life for all people. I don’t think women can comprehend it from a man’s perspective, just as I cannot understand fully what it is to be woman.

    Either way, I beleive there should also be penalties and public record announcements incurred by false accusers, Men or Women. They should have to suffer some penalty as well as having the false accusations publically displayed as a retraction of sorts.

    If there were severe punishments involved for false accusations, you can bet, both Men and women would think twice before making them.

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  51. stupid guy February 8, 2015 at 20:27 #

    Exactly. There was an article on avfm by an indian writer who related an incident about how an angry mob beat up and cut off a young boy’s penis after a girl accused him of rape. That’s very barbaric. An accusation is not a proof. Nobody knows whether he was innocent or guilty. I say let the court decide and punish the man on the basis of evidence. Mob justice should never be celebrated. You and me don’t decide who is wrong. The judicial system decides that based on justice. Even if the guy was found guilty, resorting to barbarism is never the solution. What if it is proven that a woman has accused a man of rape? Would it be right if a mob gathered and publicly, raped her brutally??? How would it it be justified if the tables are turned? People should wait for the court to punish or release the accused. That, my friends is the way of a civilized society. Unfortunately we again and again prove our animistic nature.

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  52. stupid guy February 8, 2015 at 20:33 #

    *line 9: What if it is proven that a woman has FALSELY accused a man of rape?

    please not the correction of my previous comment.

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